lasso on his kidneyshot on healer for example? Allways depends on the healer you play with or what comb, but since assa + x allways get a kill on kidney shivs you line up your tools for it
That is exactly the way to do it but that’s something many people don’t understand. In this game you are either the one doing setups, or the one surviving setups. It changes every game. When I play Assa vs most things I am the one killing. Against Sub Rogue the gameplay shifts and it’s all about surviving their goes until we eventually win. Against Hunter it is a bit in between. Etc etc.
Any spec that plays against Assa and isn’t Sub/Outlaw/Hunter should be focused on surviving Kidney and nothing else, instead of trying to do their setups. Just because if you survive every Kidney you win by default, you don’t need to setup anything anyway. So as long as the next Kidney(s) could kill you, you play defense and you win the game.
so how are you objective about it? All i see is just unbojective RMP hate from your side.
specially as ele shaman, you live to end the game with smashing the scoreboard dmg in their face mostly (or since i am too lazy to farm gold for the propper legendarys, i randomply poop someone from the field with ascendance procc )
what can i say, pvpers dont have any money^^’
Also this is the same against rmp, the objective is to survive the go, then punish. just that punishing currently is way harder cause of the combs tankyness.
And in case of ele and 2s, when they face like rogue + heal. They do their burst with lasso when its ready and not reactive on gos to stop a setup and the same time counterpreassure on it.
As it should be everywhere, someone shouldnt use their utility randomly.
Hunters get punished for randomly feign deathing, ret gets punished for randomly bubbling. etc.
Wash your eyes then.
And you think Priest will stand and watch me Lassoing his Rogue?
oh i have watched:
Here comes the sub-fire-hpriest 2300 hardstuck fanboy teaching lessons.
depends on your positioning, you can move during lasso.
i mean i played ele myself in 2s^^ Theres so much depending on diffrent situations, that you can not post all of them here. But im sure watching every loss agaisnt like assa + heal. There are many diffrent things that couldve been done to prevent death.
Doing all that hard work and still not listening for my advice.
What were the names of these topics?
the one you insult was an rmp topic, so you just insulted. The others is sepsis so no RMP talk. Great you ask for topic-name cause sepsis =! RMP.
So great seeing you talking completly unobjective in a topic and rating bash/insult players.
Also didnt know that insulting shadenox in an RMP topic is actually relevant for the discussion. You you just like to bring your agenda to every discussion?
Everything works on paper. Operation Market Garden was meant to be the most brilliant strategic idea in the history of the military but generals forgot Germans will be there defending.
Nah it’s not that easy that you press Lasso and the guy survives right away. You also have 1 global to react at best and Lasso is 20 yards range while overall you want to position as far as possible from each other against Rogue to make it harder for him to make a setup. Anyway it like fighting windmills.
Whether it is Disc or Holy you can Lasso from out of LoS, or go there.
Whether it is Disc or Holy you shouldn’t be chilling in fear range.
If it is Disc then nothing can stop you from Lasso’ing as long as you don’t give a free MC, and even then it is at least 2s of Kidney that go away, enough for healers to live generally.
If it is Holy well it is harder, but again, line of sight, or Grounding into Lasso line of sight, the solutions are many. Howver it does require okay-ish positioning feom both you and your healer as soon as Kidney + Rogur CDs are available. Preemptive maneuvers.
Well it depends. You were talking about the situation in which YOUR HEALER has no way to survive the next set of CDs alone. Once you know that then you stay within helping range, obviously. Otherwise yes he dies, but then that is your fault.
As a general rule yes, stay far vs Assa, this is correct. But when you know what happens next, position accordingly.
generally i mean, besides the point of if i like such design with shiv vendetta sepsis etc is completly irrelevant, there is allways things you can do against it. And if you are completly out of options every time and everything you can do doesnt work, then we have a state of that it actually is broken.
Is it annoying and boring? maybe
But you allways need to play allround the strenghts of other speccs as considered dampening class.
When you know the killwindows, you how to prepare for it and depending on what cooldowns already have been used, how to position
Yes there is a thing I can do. Go next. Still if you lose as Assa/Healer vs Ele/R Druid it’s on you. It’s extremely favourable matchup. The main reason why is that Vendetta+Sepsis combo is 1,5 min. and to survive it you need trinket + 2 defs. If I have no trinket healer has to give me bark and spam heals.
Assassination is defensively the weakest yes but you still have to go through CoS and Vanish before you smoke him. If he is playing with Kyrian H Priest you have nothing for it.
… or he dispels it.
In all fairness, I’ve yet to witness someone who actually argues his points, but would rather argue their own points or just direct it at the man himself
You speak like Rogue only deals damage with it. Vendetta and bleeds are still rolling and poisons will apply again in 1 sec. Anyway Sepsis will still tick once or twice before it get dispelled and these ticks are most dangerous.
Yeah I mean I am talking about Sepsis obviously not random poisons.
I personally am always quick enough to dispel it immediately on my Druid, so it is one tick. Even if it is a critical strike it is aboit 10k-13k damage (depending on other factors, not going to go in too deep).
Vendetta by itself is very healable, just like it has always been if you trade one CD for it. I guess the key is to expect it !
Btw I wonder if you’ve looked at the damage profile pf a NF Assa on their big go. Sepsis is like … 70% of the total damage done in the entire go. Imagine that sometimes you survive it with wall + other stuff… and now we talk about dispelling it altogether. The remaining damage is easy af to heal.
I was holding out hope that one day people would learn that Necrolord is the ‘good’ variant of Assa but I don’t think it’s going to happen
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