Can we get serious now? WTF is rogue pvp dmg?

There’s nothing to understand, your arguments boil down to " it’s this way because I say so " and ignore reality and factual data.

I chucka tha meatballs at em mumma!

But the rogues? They no eata the meatballs?!

They vanish!

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Judging by how blizz deals with balance issues, Sub rogue is here to stay))

He is saying DH was OP for Legion and BFA which is the truth. It was free rating then. Not anymore

I genuinely wonder how people still have the patience to answer to this DH.

Well, did you realized that this means that DH was viable in tournaments and on the top of the ladder which just proves my point?

DH was designed and presented as the most easiest class ever implemented, which leads us to the conclusion that, when DH was even played in tournaments and on top of the ladder, but only a few DHs played above 2,400, that most people who played DH must be noobs.

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Way too many classes insta-kill others at the moment.
Rogues are especially noticable though, because they can pop every single defensive and offensive CD, do full burst DPS while those are up, and CC people all at the same time.

If I end up in a 1v1 situation against a rogue, I simply die. Cheap shot, kidney, shadow dance. If I trinket the cheap shot and INSTANTLY pop turtle I can avoid the inevitable for a few seconds, then I die in the incoming kidney shot to his capped energy pool and continued god-like burst while he still has all his defensives ready just in case I ever get to actually play against him.

The game isn’t balanced around 1v1 scenarios so that’s just how it is, but rogues kill people so fast that unless you’ve got an un-CCed healer out of the rogue’s range, they’re extremely likely to auto-kill at least one person through sheer burst before biting the dust themselves.
It’s like MM hunters double tapping out of stealth, there are no ways to deal with it unless you can literally immune or premeditate their initial setup, and most of the time you have no idea exactly when the rogue is going to open on you.
This combination of god-tier CC and insta-kill burst is not acceptable design.

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dh master race

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For specific matchups, sure.

EVER? You clearly never played Vanilla, where the frost mage rotation was literally one button.

Or simply that DH works in a tournament setting, which is very different from the normal ladder.

I genuinely wonder why you’d barge into a discussion only to add nothing of worth

It most certainly is not, and class representation as well as logs from raids as well as this document prove it.

`https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTOJK8LF10QRPMPeJQH4Y48yf_R3kJtdPEbMmTBcUiLsr1YeB_fsrwMMBwzrwFFO1echkccjxINmi9k/pubhtml#

people were bored of assa being a class which can just uunga bunga tunnel and having solid synergy with a lot of classes, so now you get sub rogue being overturned and able to comfortably 1 vs 2 a good handful of classes instead :wink:

Coffin Dance played basically any game as ww dh rshaman, so it was for every matchup! :laughing:

Blizz words and 99% will agree with that! You obviously don’t, but you are one of those bad players who can’t even shine with a DH.

16 DH got R1 last season, I would say ladder and tournament show both that dh is doing well in the right hands!

You think what you want to think and that is fine but you cannot change people’s opinions. It just will not happen.

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So you actually think DH is easier to play than a class that literally only used one button? I mean you might as well say the earth is flat, you are factually wrong.

And if you’re going to call people bad, don’t hide your rating behind a level 11 alt. Just reeks of cowardice.

And how many rogues? How many Warlocks?

Agreed. Rogues are doing way too much damage. I also think Paladins are overtuned.

This isn’t about opinion, statistics show DH is not OP. Just because a handful of people out of millions got to rank one doesn’t mean anything. Tyler 1 got to Challenger with Ivern, that doesn’t mean Ivern is OP.

A good player can get high with any class. It does not change the fact that some classes have an easier climb. DH is not one of them.

We are not talking about rank 1 here. The fact that so many people ( some I personally know) who had never touched arena ever before and never played any other class whatsoever went from 0 -2.8 as DH in Legion/BFA in mere months alone is proof. Trenacetate (The DH master) himself said on stream that prior to Shadowlands DH was pretty retard proof. So no offense but nothing you say will change that. The abuse of the last 4 years has already happened.

“It does not change the fact that some classes have an easier climb. DH is not one of them.” You almost made me spit my drink. Surely you are not serious about this part right? Assuming it is Legion/BFA we are talking about here.

I counted, it takes 2 hits for a rogue to 100-0 hp. This happens in less than 2-3 seconds. Is this some kind of joke, why have left it like this ?

A very good definition of a DH. :slight_smile: Blizz literally said that DH was designed to be as noob friendly as possible. That is why they had so many passives, why they mostly bypass armor, why they have good burst and good sustained, why they have life leech instead of active heals and so on.

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