May the black lotus market crash and burn. (It is and I love it)!
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I farmed them because it was fun,frustrating,annoying,rewarding at the same time. The feeling knowing 200+gold laying there and only needs to be picked creates adrenaline. I dont think anyone enjoy 100% of the game. But some stuff has to be done , if you wanna do naxx on 1-2 characters.
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I dont know if its reduced in half or tripple or just by 20%. Time will tell, but blizzard stated that spawn will be buffed, so people lost something, prob about half. You donât understand that people lost gold if they drop from 200 to 100g?
I would actually be fine with this change, only if they buffed exactly everything. If the population is 5x, buff everything 5x? rtvs,all herbs⌠everything thats not instanced. Even loot from mobs needs to be buffed.
- Yes , people have put in much more time in geting the lotuses then they would have needed to now. I think you understand what I mean.
My point is that the game becomes boring if you canât trust blizzard to stick with something. I got 30-40 arcanite bars, am I stupid for saving them aswell? I mean, you should be able to log off without worrying about that your hard earned items / gold will suddenly loose value because blizzard suddenly decides that they want to change something. I think most people agrees on this.
They should have announced that âsomething will change with the lotusâ in a couple of months. So people got time to sell / buy or what they want to do.
The concept of free market, and investing in goods instead of gold, is that there is always the risk of your goodâs losing desirabilty and value. That is what happened here. Perfect example of free market.
Of course a major part of the issue was bots. But because that problem is not solved, should a different approach to solving the problem not be used either? If the removed all bots and everyone could farm BL again, your prices would have dropped also.
What they did here is adjust a resource availability to match the increased amount of players on servers. It is common sense.
Virrig you should be banned from posting, barely double digit iq
Diokhan, so you basicly mean that you should never invest in something in this game. Because blizzard can suddenly just change something without warning. This is not the same thing, you know it. If suddenly 70% of the player base quited and the demand for flasks were suddenly reduced and I lost gold it would have been fine, thats a risk I take. But players should not have to take risks like this into account when they play a 15 year old game where they stated they wont do any changes.
Why is that Asap? Most of the things I say is 100% right.
200% right
Having a 10k server pop isnt blizzlike or #nochanges either so what is your point? Your whole arguement lacks facts right here 3x more players = 3x more resources if u want it to be somewhat close to blizzlike not 3x players and 1x resources cuz this wasnt meant to be back in the day either.
If u give 100 dollars to 10 people and they gonna split these money to survive and get food, you cant from nowhere let 30 more people split on those 100 dollars and believe everything is like it was before.
Virrig, what I basically mean is that you invested in a commodity that was this valuable only because Blizard increased the amount of players per server and not the available rescources. That together with people âinvestingâ (or monopolizing) in it making the price even higher by keeping it off the the market with the sole purpose of making even more money of other players for it.
This is a gamble, because it is a game, that gets updates and patches and fixes. You gambled on this not being fixed, and it got fixed. So you made a wrong bet.
You compare it to free market. If in many countries a company abusing free market by forming monopoly or artificially keeping the price up, the government steps in and âfixesâ it. I guess your comparison is quite correct then. It is a free market, and the abuse of it got fixed.
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Items dropped from mobs work completely differently from items dropped from gathering nodes.
Surprised you donât know this if you play the game enough to have black lotus stocks.
Diokhan, I get your point. Still this applies to every item with a value in the game. If you want you can gather a group of 3-5 and kill a certain mobs all day and not let anyone else get certain item. I just dont understand why BL is such a problem , you âneedâ one per week . It was 200gold every week.
I donât agree with that it should be a gamble like this, even though I admit I was thinking about that they might do something this stupid.
It does not mather what people say really, all people that used black lotus as farming method got scammed basicly. Its not even a good farm compared to other stuff. At best I maybe got 1 out 3-4 lotuses. wich is 50-70g per hour. People make it sound like we log in and take the lotus and sell it for 230 gold in 5minutes, thats not the case at all.
I understand most people are happy with this change. But that does not make it right at all. Try to see it from another perspective , not only âeasier lotus for meâ.
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When you farm mobs 24/7 I can just jump in and farm with you. See the topic you are in, a perfect example. It will make the amount of drops I get from the mobs lower because we share them at that moment. And if more people come, we share with even more. And if the enemy faction comes they can kill us and get the loot. Thatâs what a MMO is about.
The way BL worked, there was no option to share the resource. There was no competition or game play. It was botting, abusing game techniques, multi-boxing, hoarding the resource or even transferring them of server completely. If you think that is what a MMO should be about and is fair game and not require attention, then I fear we will never agree on this subject.
I could not care less about BL personally. Never used a flask, and likely not going to for a long time. What I do care about is how bots, gold farmers and in general greedy people go out of their way to make as much money as possible at the expense of others in a freaking videogame.
âLFM frostmaul eâko farm.â - and your problem is fixed. Who even needs firewater?
First, I meant that a group of players can take over the market of a certain item by killing 99% of the mobs and set the prices themself. Think you misunderstood .
And about black lotus, you are very wrong. You probably have not even tried to get one. My server (mograine) I had no problem picking them as solo player and only one account, this is considered a mega server I think. I cant speak for other servers though. Mograine = no problem at all.
You mean like they did with the devilsaur maffia. And you think that was a healthy situation worthy of a MMO? And one wrong does not make the other one right.
I donât know about the situation on Mograine, but looking on what happened on the forums, Reddit, everywhere really, and what happened on the server I play on, you can not deny there was a problem. Fact that you intended to massively profit of this problem shows you know it was real and you acted on it.
Though if on Mograine really there was no problem at all, then not much must have changed for you as prices where already normalized, right?
Diokhan, yes but this can be done on everything in the entire game. What rules you want ? You canât loot black lotus while in a group? what is fair? you cant attack in pvp unless both are 100% hp? I mean basicly everything is unfair. I got 4 chars in burning steppes all with herb+mining, my chance of picking any herb/rtv is much higher then the average player. Should I not be able to have more then one character parked in one zone at the time? Just because I invested the time just to be able to do this?
If there was a problem with black lotus, the same problem is there for any material you gather in the open world. I donât think a arcanite bar costed 75-80g either back in 2005. A stack of Mountain silversage did not cost 40g. And a black lotus did not cost 200g. So the whole game is a problem then, because there are 3 options. 1. server populations needs to be much smaller 2. Not change spawn rate on anything. 3. change spawns on everything to match current population.
Changing just one item only hurt the people that did farm that item. And its very unfair.
As do caster consumables.
maybe. maybe not, probably not
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