idk what else to say blablabla i play warrior yea so what u need 12 intervenes for rmp
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Yes, it’s irritating, this argument is a debate killer.
“You play X so you can’t complain about Y” - complete nonsense.
Whine as much as you want, friend. You have my endorsement to do so.
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It’s not even the damage and cc. It’s also the survivability. They have an OH SHT button for every potential go on them. Disarm by melee? LOL CLOAK HAHAHAHA! They go on me? LOL EVASION HAHAHAHA! I threw both in the opener? NEVERMIND ONE OF 2 VANISHES HAHAHAHA! Oh i could potentially die here? LOL DUEL THE HEALER I DON’T NEED DUEL FOR ONESHOT ANYWAYS HAHAHAHA!
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thats on top of there dmg and cc
thank you i just hate to face rmps and mlxses and dhs xD
Rogues toolkit is completely absurd. I did like 9 rounds of 2s with my Ele mate yesterday, and 6 of them had a rogue in it, and on top of that we faced every single rogue spec (Sub, Outlaw, Assa), all in complete absurd states.
But this is a general problem, not only rogue specific. Classes/Specs used to (in a very distant past) have some logic and thought process behind their toolkits - where for example, a spec which had too much mobility used to deal only medium damage, a spec with much control used to be squishy, so on and so forth. But in recent years we reached a point where logic doesn’t apply. They simply throw everything they can think of into a bucket, and that’s how a spec is designed nowadays. Rogues, Wars, etc. having high mobility, high damage, huge pressure, ms effects, immunities, defensives/survability, etc. all thrown in without a single though process behind, and then god take the wheel is the approach
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i mean shadow must have 0.0 fun vs rog rn its just superbad what they did to warr and rog rog should have cc or dmg not both warr should have ms mobility but not do the same dmg as a dh who only has dmg they have to remake every class in my opnion
Shadow is unfun playing against anything nowadays, exacerbated when against most melee, since every melee have multiple stuns, have immunities, have interrupts, knockbacks or any other form of micro cc, while pumping out absurd damage, coupled with passive survability and endess mobility, whereas SP has zero gap openers, and needs to hardcast every ability, which hit like wet noodles (until they are dispelled, and having in mind some healers have access to CDless dispel, or Resto shaman which can interrupt and ground your attempts, and some DPS have dispels baked into their toolkits, like Retri, Havoc, etc.) - and speaking of shamans, by the way, why aren’t totems nerfed to only work when in LOS of their team mates? Makes absolutely no sense that totems can provide benefits to party members from behind pillars
They can also remove bleeds now. The thing that kept them from restealthing up until DF.
Blizzard f’d up when they messed with the basic rules of mmo’s:
Having stealth+ high damage means you have to sacrifice some survivability in the form of low health/ defence. Currently rogues get everything. This game has no form of rock paper scissors. You should be relying on your teammates to balance out what you don’t have.
Nowadays in arena when I destealth sub rogues in the opener they don’t even try to re-stealth, they just sometimes sit there and wait for somebody to open on them so they can shadowstep 30y range to them and dance cheap shot 
Long gone are the days when opening from stealth mattered and you were rewarded for keeping a dot on the rogue or something like that
They have everything that made every specc special combined into one.
The better question is what doesn’t rog have
Why would rogues be squishy? They’re the equivallent of James Bond. James Bond always wins
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Offhealing and a healer spec is the only things I can really think of… 
Maybe a cleanse/dispel like healers too, just for good measure
Imagine when u playing ret paladin who shood do less dmg, then warriors, but for that they got heal.
Nowdays, ret got less heal/absorb than warrior dmg still ± one level, some times less.
And yes, u just dream for cc teams, like frost mage/ ele sham… *they dispell ur freedom isntantly, i believe, they got gladiatorlosSA addon, who screams freedom and they pressed purge/dispell/ 100 times in one second
Rog is literally better than all of us combined in 1 specc imagine does more dmg as assa has a ms has cc and the best deffs in wow rn vanish vanish cloak and evasiok u have bubble wall i have parry and some heals
Would be a option but our devs playing rmp dor years is the biggest problem
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And warlocks
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rmp and lock yea
This made me laugh so hard, i do not know why, maybe shuffle is affecting my brain
But thanks for it, made my day better
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