Can we players PLEASE have more control over realm-intern open world sharding?

[Gram-ghostlands (Gram)]

@Heramaar-argent-dawn

t is what most of us Roleplayers identify with such a term.

Interesting.
Good to learn things.

[Heramaar-argent-dawn]

Some would go even further and include NPC controls in such a mode by definition. Not me tho.

[Billyblue-magtheridon]

@Heramaar-argent-dawn

I don’t care if it’s a solution for now. I don’t look for a quick band-aid. I am pushing for a long-time fix so this problem NEVER comes up again. People really gotta stop relying on “work arounds” all the time.

But then other people don’t really have that issue.

[Heramaar-argent-dawn]

@Billyblue-magtheridon

But then other people don’t really have that issue.

Are you sure?

@Alewín-argent-dawn

It’s not just this though. 95% of the time on AD, the zone is rammed and rares are get engaged as soon as they spawn. The other 5% of the time I’m on a shard with like 5-20 other players and lots of rares up.

Sometimes I can relog to join a bigger one, sometimes I have to swap character and farm some keys on that for a while. Fortunately I’ve never had more than 1 character at a time get banished in this way because it really sucks.

[Billyblue-magtheridon]

Oh so it’s an Argent Dawn problem?

have you tried another server?

As others have pointed it RP realms like to segregate themselves. I guess that’s one of the issues with segregation.

There are solutions for you out there, you’re just not choosing to use them. Joining a group is no difference from a Magic “shard jump” button.

[Heramaar-argent-dawn]

@Billyblue-magtheridon

As others have pointed it RP realms like to segregate themselves. I guess that’s one of the issues with segregation.

There are solutions for you out there, you’re just not choosing to use them. Joining a group is no difference from a Magic “shard jump” button.

Just because it is a apparent problem of Roleplay realms doesn’t mean that others and I can not ask for a long-time solution instead of relying on work-arounds like joining a group or relogging into the game to fix the issue caused by Blizzards not-perfect game systems.

Feel free to disagree if you want. But please don’t try to hold us back when trying to improve the game experience for our realms.

[Billyblue-magtheridon]

@Heramaar-argent-dawn

Just because it is a apparent problem of Roleplay realms doesn’t mean that others and I can not ask for a long-time solution instead of relying on work-arounds like joining a group or relogging into the game to fix the issue caused by Blizzards not-perfect game systems.

Feel free to disagree if you want. But please don’t try to hold us back when trying to improve the game experience for our realms.

not trying to hold you back. but just pointing out you’ll only end complaining that you have to click a button every time you want to jump shards.

the only decent solution would be to remove shading all together. and that will likely just create problems.

[Skullfox-argent-dawn]

Argent dawn sharding is and always have been an issue. Even in rp zones like Stormwind and such depending on the population we are sharded away from each other sometimes. Depending on the population.

Wonder how they deal with it on the much more populated US side of the fence though.

[Punyelf-draenor (Punyelf)]

RP realms have special rules/way they work, they would cease to have them if RP realms just CRZ like all the others. It would be more disruptive to RPers to have them mixed in with everyone else.

Others have pointed out that you can join others or list yours and pull people over to AD. That is the fix. I know it’s not what you want but I don’t think your fellow AD players will want to give up their RP status. It has both pros and cons.

[Heramaar-argent-dawn]

@Punyelf-draenor

Others have pointed out that you can join others or list yours and pull people over to AD. That is the fix. I know it’s not what you want but I don’t think your fellow AD players will want to give up their RP status. It has both pros and cons.

Puny, I don’t get where you read that “giving up their RP status” thing. I can’t remember anyone mentioning this as an option.

When I spoke about “giving players more control” for sharding, I was speaking about realm-intern sharding, not cross-realm one.

@Billyblue-magtheridon

but just pointing out you’ll only end complaining that you have to click a button every time you want to jump shards.

I would rather have automatic sharding that I can optionally control manually to phase over to other peoples world within seconds, than having to open an LFG tool, create or join a group which can potentially take several minutes instead.

[Elias-drakthul]

It has nothing to do with sharding. Zone is empty becouse there are no players nothing els. Sharding isnt cause of this. Sharding is spliting players when zone is overcrowded and put the together when there isnt enough players nothing els. There simply isnt any players in that zone to put together.

And btw realm status means nothing. They have changed how realm status change back in WoD and it no longer reflects amount of playrs on realm activaly playing. It has more to with overall population based on amounth of characters created on that realm. So even realms what have status high pop can have very low population.

[Heramaar-argent-dawn]

@Elias-drakthul

Sharding is spliting players when zone is overcrowded and put the together when there isnt enough players nothing els.

So in other words: All the players of my realm in that region (visible in the region chat by names btw) were on one (or more) shards and the automatic system failed to close my empty shard to put me into theirs which it should do by your very own words.

Sounds to me like a system that wasn’t working at that very moment.

[Elias-drakthul]

There is not such thing as reagion chat. Its also shows people from other realms.

[Heramaar-argent-dawn]

Aha and what’s this then?

Chat Rooster with Names: https://imgur.com/a/YlCFBIy
Chat Window displaying channel swap: https://imgur.com/a/yiN7Nh5

And just to clarify, the names in the list did change when leaving the zone.

[Skullfox-argent-dawn]

@Heramaar-argent-dawn

https://imgur.com/a/YlCFBIy

Heramaar… Blizzard doesn’t have the technology to separate our rp hubs from the latest content ones when it comes to shards and all that… Its as simple as that.

They can’t shard us from server zones alone… RP servers are already getting special treatment in that sense… To preserve rp hubs. We are not sharded with outside realms.

But that has PVE gameplay consequenses… we get less people to play with.

[Punyelf-draenor (Punyelf)]

RP realms don’t mix with others. So the thing that makes the world busy all the time is CRZ. RP realms are exempt from this system so that you aren’t mixed with non RPers, less chance to have events disrupted.

RP realms only shard when they absolutely need to. And even then only with other RP realms. AD is the busiest RP realm. If anything RP realms are the closest to realms of old. It was a shock going back to the old system on Classic, and seeing how even with increased server capacity compared to it’s original version, there were just so few to do activities with out of hours. Compared to the CRZ system.

I imagine shard hopping doesn’t work very well on RP realms because the system isn’t meant to do it like other realms. Only for load balancing.

[Elias-drakthul]

Just becouse people are in general chat doesnt mean they are in the zone. Back in classic lot lot of zones have general chat connected with other zones to boost amounth of chating in that channel. You can be sure they use same technique for retail. General chat means general. Its not zone chat.

[Elahri-silvermoon]

@Elias-drakthul

Just becouse people are in general chat doesnt mean they are in the zone.

Do you ever get tired of posting your BS?

[Heramaar-argent-dawn]

@Skullfox-argent-dawn

Blizzard doesn’t have the technology to separate our rp hubs from the latest content ones when it comes to shards and all that… Its as simple as that.

They can’t shard us from server zones alone… RP servers are already getting special treatment in that sense… To preserve rp hubs. We are not sharded with outside realms.

They absolutely can. Recently when they added the Trading Post Stormwind was for some of us players on AD super empty and for some others on Argent Dawn super crowded. On one day at evening, when others and I were busy doing our RP we even had like 40 other AD-RPers being shoved into our shard from within our Realm.

They absolutely have the technology to shard players within a realm around. And we aren’t talking about Stormwind or Orgrimmar or any other City. We are talking about the Forbidden Reach or in future patches, the newest added zone. Most people that do RP in new zones are guilds.

And if we would have manual control over shards as players from our client-side, we would have access to a panel list that would look roughly like:

On Map

Shard Selection

(Click name for transport)

• (1) Forbidden Reach - High (You are here)
• (2) Forbidden Reach - High
• (3) Forbidden Reach - High
• (4) Forbidden Reach - High
• (5) Forbidden Reach - Medium
• (6) Forbidden Reach - Medium
• (7) Forbidden Reach - Medium
• (8) Forbidden Reach - Medium
• (9) Forbidden Reach - Low
• (10) Forbidden Reach - Low
• (11) Forbidden Reach - Low
• (12) Forbidden Reach - Low
• (13) Forbidden Reach - Empty

@Punyelf-draenor

RP realms don’t mix with others

Again, not what I am asking for.

@Punyelf-draenor

RP realms only shard when they absolutely need to. And even then only with other RP realms.

That’s not the point.

Again, I am speaking of realm-intern sharding. Not about a single other realm involved than your own. Realm-intern means for example, Argent Dawn only with Argent Dawn, Ravencrest only with Ravencrest, etc.

It’s not that compliacted. I really don’t understand how some of you misinterpret my words so wrong.

@Elias-drakthul

Just becouse people are in general chat doesnt mean they are in the zone.

They are, read again.

@Heramaar-argent-dawn

Chat Rooster with Names: https://imgur.com/a/YlCFBIy
Chat Window displaying channel swap: https://imgur.com/a/yiN7Nh5

And just to clarify, the names in the list did change when leaving the zone.

It’s a region/zone chat system that is only labeled as “General”. So when you leave your current zone, you get a different list of 50-100 people that are on a different realm-intern shard in the very same zone as you are transferring to. Still people in the same zone on your realm. Still people that you could be connected over to.

And if you don’t believe me, look. This is Boralus right now on one of my alts:

https://imgur.com/a/GlT4KGK

Only the players that are in that zone are displayed in general.

@Elahri-silvermoon

Do you ever get tired of posting your BS?

Apparently he doesn’t.

[Skullfox-argent-dawn]

@Heramaar-argent-dawn

They absolutely can. Recently when they added the Trading Post Stormwind was for some of us players on AD super empty and for some others on Argent Dawn super crowded. On one day at evening, when others and I were busy doing our RP we even had like 40 other AD-RPers being shoved into our shard from within our Realm.

They absolutely have the technology to shard players within a realm around. And we aren’t talking about Stormwind or Orgrimmar or any other City. We are talking about the Forbidden Reach or in future patches, the newest added zone. Most people that do RP in new zones are guilds.

Edit: I am always wrong :x Blizzard bad. This is a personal hate issue between blizz and argent dawn. I delete my commento