What do you do if you are a cloth/leather armor kind of character in solo shuffle and find yourself stunned with two Chaos bolts comming your way?
My observations tells me that at least 80-100% of my health will be gone and im most likely dead. Surely you can dodge a few of them and silence/cc the warlock but you only have so many CD’s to deal with that kind of stuff. I mean wasnt this the reason that mages Glacial spike got nerfed too?
Now, I get that ChAoS bOLtS are a big part of the warlock kit, but man does it feel way too juiced up with its infinite possibility to end games single handedly.
Dont know if I am alone with this view, I play a warlock myself and found it embarrassingly easy to reach 1800 (as demo however), compared to other classes.
Chaos bolts require 2 shards, thus are not spammable.
You can cast 3x Chaos bolts after collecting 10-15 shards (good luck without Rain of Fire spamming). Which means you’re not doing anything first 30 seconds of the game.
Besides being a long hardcast, it’s probably the most telegraphed spell after Wings. All of your aura will light up and you will be interrupted 99% of the times.
So reality is, Destro casts instants with cooldowns while being trained by Fury and Monk. If he manages to juke a precog, great, you can cast 2 Chaos bolts that will do 80k-140k damage each. One will go to grounding, another to reflect or cocoon/pain sup.
Good job, you brought warr to 20% of HP and now you have to survive another 30 seconds of double melee train.
Destro is strong because of self healing and spammable fear. Chaos bolt is a non issue.
Due to the madness talent the damage is actually quite backloaded, the first chaos bolt n single chaos bolts does quite low amonts of damage from what i´ve seen n i would say its not even worth the hardcast n risk of getting kicked on chaos unless they can fire more than one.
Im a plate wearer so i suppose im not part of the “cloth/leather” question but seeing as i have no chaos damage reduction i dont see the relevance in armor. The cloth/leather wearer should be more worried about my frontloaded damage that i can deliver in the same GCD as a fury warrior!
In short though i dont actually mind chaos bolt at all n in the games i play its rare i even see it used AT ALL. Im fairly conservative with my kicks n its rare to see someone even attempt it without precog n i tend to save my spell reflect incase i ape the kick.
With the recent substantial nerfs to destros instant damage ( probaly the right way to nerf them ) i dont think chaos bolt is overpowered at all, it has alot of counterplay and its damage is frankly not exessive either, infact i find it quite inconsistant. More than once have i had an “oh crap” moment just to be hit for like 60-70k n sometimes it slamdunks me for like 150-180k instead, im assuming it has to do with madness and mainstat procs from trinkets n such that causes those huge variations in damage.
Then again, i can actually reach 200k rampages with the build i play currently on my warrior with the onslaught build, rogues spam 200k evicerate and overall i find demo locks FAR more annoying than destro.
While i feel bad for affliction lock mains i honestly dont want affliction to become good because its annoying to play against when it is. Demo is fundamentally annoying just by design so i´d personally prefer if destro remained the main PvP spec for warlocks as i find it the least frustrating to play against, i will recognize the fact that its likely a biased take based on the fact that i tend to absolutely devour destro locks.
All hunter specs, giga fun to play against now. Survival has been hugely slept on in terms of it being overtuned. It’s dmg + the unavoidable cc is just stupid.
Fire mage, mage having arguably the best mobility out of casters. + It can play further than other casters + it’s dmg is just absurd. Don’t care if it’s squishier, it’s dmg needs to get tuned down.
But yes, let’s continue to nerf locks which they’ve nerfed destro twice now and I think it’s absolutely fine.
Agree with the rest, but 180k CB is not possible without PI or some amplify/weakness.
First one goes for like 80k, the next are 110-140k max even with trinket and embellishment proc, assuming you don’t get micro-cc’d and have to start with 80k again.
Did some shuffle the other day and in a quite dragged out slog round a destro casted several chaos bolts n his max hit was 123k, which frankly seems really low n alot less than i expected. His minimum hit was 71k so the damage variation that game was 71-123k from chaos bolt. I guess the 180k hits are all from BG´s with saltwater n berserk buff or something, i remembered chaos bolt hitting way harder than it actually ended up doing.
Although i actually rarely see destro locks anymore since the nerfs, it seems to be all back to demo again n i find demo alot more obnoxious to play against.
yeah i think you are right, which is why the topic is abit funny, the nerfs to shadowburn was massive n it kinda tickles now doing around 25-45k damage. i never struggled with them pre nerfs n now post nerfs i dont even see them anymore. im dreading having to endure the incoming demo spam. already seen a huge influx of those. dont get why blizzard insist on keeping the most toxic lock spec at the top for PvP.