it makes me lose faith in humanity everytime this gets brought up, for the first time ever it feels like casters have a fair fight agaisnt the unlimited amount of random micro ccs and counterplay melees have to actual casting
and its a disgrace to the pvp community that this is even discussed
oh, btw, we had this in wotlk on mages, even tho it was weaker, but im glad they came up with this, if u want precog gone, ud have to remove 99.9% of the micro ccs and interrupts, like, remember when shamans had to pick between flame shock frostshock and earth shock? now u just wind sear.
its always broken casters this and broken caster that, and every F season its 95% melees and 5 poor casters being tunnelled until they don’t even feel like playing lmao
look at mages, mages have been in a bad state for years, aside from 2 patches where they were hotfixed for being suddently broken, most other patches mages are a meme, and nobody plays them, 1 montha go they were at their historically lowest ever, with mage bing the least played class in the game in ALL pvp bracket, rbg, solo, 2v2, 3v3
and yet, i constantly see people crying how op and free glad mage is, the numbers are there people.
oh btw, at this point i don’t care if mage is buffed or not, just don’t come to me with BS like mage is strong, and then u cannot get ina single group because its weak, if its strong, than by all means, invite all the mages u see and lets play, otherwise stop crying nonsense
This plus the fact that AI spent all procs before pressing Earth Shock what is impossible for human because even while you are about to press Earth Shock the proc might happen. Similarly PokemonTV from NA had a script for Razer keyboard that pressed Lava Burst button. Guy jumped also all the time so it never hard casted Lava Burst. This way he spent all the procs.
Fun fact is that Havoc or Outlaw bots even though were tried were never as effective as so far AI isn’t effective for meeles. That’s why recently SP bots got more and more popular because with proper rotating 3 magic schools they are able to deal 120 k dps. Caster spec played by AI at this level of advancement will be better than meele.
in the state classes are right now, i believe precog is literally a necessity, some classes surely have it easy becuase of it, some wouldn’t be able to play at all. its very situational, unfortunately we have this system that in certain situation 1 thing is busted and in others its a green pass
u think becasue i have fire and frost its not worse, but the truth is if u have frost or fire as arcane it makes no diff at all… what u gonna 5minutes cd block, what else, blocking is just going to give enemies time to get all their ccs and interupts back anyway, so u cannot exactly sit it for long, specially if u blocked a stun its just gonna refresh DR on u, full block nowdays guarantees u to be trained 10 times harder if u come out
u can nova, what class sits a root in 2024? none every class can remove it
u can fireblast, ye lets not even go there, 15363dmg with a 9/10 sec cd x)
ring of frost annd db in soloshuffle are some of the most worthless abilities ever in 90% of the situation, w/e u have retri dk dh hunter warrior boomie sp lock, db ring means literal NOTHING and its broken isntantly, or dispell your team dots, everyone is just slugging left and right
I think it’s because you have some of the best, if not the best mobility in the game so interrupts other than ranged interrupts are far less oppressive for you.
You can outrange CC and interrupts for huge portions of games. SP is a training dummy, that’s why it’s worse for SP.
Precog is a necessary answer to a very unhealthy class design. There’s so many micro CCs, it’s impossible for casters to cast without precog. But precog, instead of rewarding fake-casting, incentivizes melees to not even bother trying to kick and just use micro CCs instead.
I’m sorry, did you just say casters are broken? Remove precog and casters don’t stand a chance. Basically every melee has high mobility, so can easily get onto casters. Mobility is high for mythic+ but carries over into PvP and to combat that they added Precog to give casters a chance. Not only that, but the amount of micro CC in the game makes it even harder for casters. I see what you’re saying with some classes, especially druids and cyclone, precog benefits them probably more than any other class, so it has some imbalances.
But, the way to outplay precog most of the time is easy, just don’t kick. The amount of global’s a caster will waste faking, is better than the risk for granting precog.
In my opinion, the only thing that should be fixed with precog is that it shouldn’t proc if they’re CCd already. For example, if you stun and your teammate kicks them at the same time, when they’re in the stun, it grants them precog. It shouldn’t do that.
The other thing to mention is that it takes up an embellishment slot, so its not exactly a free thing that every caster has access to.
