Disc is basically playing double dps at this point with their damage and holy also has decent damage while having the most dumb cc combo anyone could play with stun into fear. Doesnt even need a team mate to set up cc anymore and also being able to burst in every go.
Disc needs atleast to lose 50% of its damage and I dont even know where to start with holy
While i am aware that priest is currently popular and will receive additional nerfs after the last round, i still want to point out something …
Incap / Leg Sweep into Song
Bash into clone
Root totem, incap totem into frog
HoJ into rep
Counterplay starts with your teammates and continues with
precog
grounding totem, tremor totem, knockback while stunned to prevent the fear
monk port while stunned to prevent the fear
evoker shrouds
shadowmeld the stun, this ones tricky tho
sacrifice before the stun fear, not the best move in every situation tho
And many more
As in the last post i tried to highlight some possible counterplays - priest is popular atm, and might get nerfed but the scenarios described here are often based on a lack of experience.
Edit: And here i see i posted under your LFG PvP thread to form a 3s team. Yikes unpleasant.
Here is the thing with all of this. They are not instant. The problem with stun into fear is how its both without any set up or cast time.
Indeed, however as its 2s, the usual set up is that the other dps will also stun your dps to avoid said counterplay. In 3s its a lot easier to avoid the follow up cc / its to risky for the priest to attempt it unless they already lead
Iam not arguing that it is unbeatable though, its just to easy to perform of a cc chain. Like stun into trap as a SV hunter.
come mate. this is not a stormbolt, which is already not easy to melt when the game gets intense, also not everyone is nightelf / can play night elf.
weird take, its a common thing for people to have different opinions on topics.
Yes, lets do that, this sounds very reasonable and will for sure not kill the spec completely. Might as well implement the balance ideas from Bac while we’re at it.
Like I agree that both hpriest and disc are too strong currently. The tier set of holy is broken and their cdr on the stun is indeed a bit too high in my opinion. On Disc the recent buffs were too much imo. But try to be reasonable at least. Disc has generally low throughput, the worst mobility and cc out of all healers and you also want to cut their damage to half. Like come on…
And I’m not sure if you’re aware of it but Prevoker is also extremely strong and obnoxious right now for every comp that can’t purge. And I heavily doubt that prevoker won’t get another round of nerfs as well as priest.
Do we nerf all ranged instant stuns as well? Also why is everybody so obsessed with the cc, almost every game I have doesn’t end before high damp or when someone goes oom.
Well you didn’t say that in your opening post Heavily increasing attonement while tuning down damage would indeed work and would make the spec much easier to balance (making it good in 3s without breaking 2s). Disc still has the problem that the cc in it’s toolkit is bad, maybe they should rework mind control.
Well that’s true, imo Evoker should get some sort of purge protection because they really seem to struggle against purge spam.
In my opinion the main reason why hpriest is that dominant right now is because of how comically op their tier set is. It’d be much harder to have time for offensive gcds like spamming purge or smite (for cdr reduction on stun) if the 4p wouldn’t give so many free Serenity procs. I also think their stun should be dispellable.
Would likely still leave the spec dead depending on how severe the damage nerf is and how it looks in regards to mana in longer games. If the damage isn’t there, and the general toolkit of more or less every other healer is better then there is no reason to bring the spec since it no longer brings the one advantage it had.
It’s the problem disc priest generally faces, especially in 3v3 environments.
Incap is instant, so is legsweep.
Same with bash, not clone but it’s ranged no cd.
Hoj also instant, rep is ranged…
Don’t think the cc on priest is the op or unfair part.
Mostly the overtuned output, and perhaps the damage it also brings while having strong heals/cds.
Blizz, maybe you could just help HPal? We need a little more throughout and a reasonable amount of mana regen. Mana is the most frustrating thing tbh; so easy to fix and so unfair when no other healer has the mana issues that we do.
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Heavily increasing attonement while tuning down damage would indeed work and would make the spec much easier to balance (making it good in 3s without breaking 2s). Disc still has the problem that the cc in it’s toolkit is bad, maybe they should rework mind control.