For obvious reasons might i add, i can’t even remember how many people i told last week that running into the Whirlwinds on the second boss of VP helps with them not getting silenced and dying to the dot or hitting Spacebar for the last boss of VP or people not knowing that they can Sooth the Ragestorm Mob in Brakenhide.
The amount of DPS disregarding the simplest mechanics because “Healer can heal” it, will obviously drive any sane persone away from EVER healing a Pug and a Solo Que approche won’t fix that, it will worse even. It’s already a pain when i see 2.2K Hunters dying in a Underrot 17 to the Fixate of the add without ever using Binding Shot or just Feign Death.
The argument is not about which keylevel would be possible to pug but in a soloq system people being reasonably qualified to do they key they que into.
I had a +17 freehold turn into a clownfiesta on first pull because the DK tank that’s done it on +19 died. “Healer, why you don’t heal me?”. That’s an ALT F4 angle and just go do something else for a while because you get so tilted by those people.
Guy has almost full RP, has vampiric blood ready, has IBF ready, has DRW up.
If someone did a +19 fh as a blood dk they would obv be qualified to be in a +17 fh as a blood dk.
What you described has nothing directly to do with a soloq system.
If you dont want to deal with random people you can just not queue soloq or even in the current lfg system right now and just play with friends/guildies instead.
I’ve checked him now and he’s failed all his freehold keys this week. This doesn’t account for keys that have turned out like the one I was in because they don’t show up because people just abandon the run.
He did it on a +19 last week. Now he’s getting clapped by fortified bolstering if we go by what happened in the freehold I was in with him.
Sure if want to keep harping on that piece of anecdotal evidence if you did a +19 fortified freehold then ur qualified for a 17 fortified freehold.
And then again ur example has nothing to do with a solo queue system it makes no sense to even bring it up considering it literally happened in a non solo queue system You can just not que it if you dont want to
Queued content attracts really bad or low-effort players, we saw that with cataclysm heroics and then they consequently got nerfed into the ground. This will happen if they put m+ into a queuable system.
i wonder whatdo you mean about tanking being hell in pugs. unless you are extremly undergeared and do dungeons with people who do last expansions dps numbers in S2 of DF then tanking is extremly fun this expansion .
i swapped and do m+ atm on all tanks possible. have not problem to get almost instant invited to +10/11 on 400 itlv tank and can survive almost everythign there no problems.
I mean those are litearlly not compareable. You had to do cata heroics to step in a foot into the raids which was the main pve content back then. There wasnt even lfr back then so if the majority of people Struggled completing even heroic dungeons couldnt play the main pve content.
That’s not the case in an infinite scaling dungeon system that we have right now. Last season the dungeons got nerfed into the ground without there even being soloq to the point that some of the highest keys compelted were done by 4 dps 1 tank comps.
The only soloq specific nerfs would probably be nerfs to overtuned curses, poisons, disea debuffs and magic/engrages which is a good thing for everyone
Pff - no they didnt. People complained at release because the heroics were ‘‘overtuned’’ which was dealt with quickly, and then they became super easy. So no, nobody struggled with heroics except maybe on release.
They nerfed them because people blizzard wanted people to be able to complete them so they have enough ilvl for the raids since there was no lfr at the start of cata.
You said there was no LFR - and you didn’t specify that it was early on.
They nerfed them because people complained, since many were Wrath babies that had never had any difficult Heroics prior (Wrath Heroics were a complete joke) and they couldnt deal with using their brains.
It was pretty obvious from the context of the conversation that i meant that at the time the dungeons were nerfed there was no LFR for people to experience the raids which was considered the main pve content back then
Either way the reason does not matter considering arguing it in here is pretty pointless to the original point of the conversation
You can just not que it if you dont want to