Some good points here why this won’t work.
But we could have best of both worlds by adding two simple changes to the game:
Filters. Allow us to fill a m+ form with info on the level, dungeon, ilvl and rating requirements.
Why do I need to even see +20 mythics while I am interested in 8-11 range. Also why waste everybody time by applying to +11 key where the owner wants 440 ilvl tank
Ping me when new dungeons with those criteria have been added to the listing.
well you do know you can just type “10” and then it will literaly show you “range” of 9-11 ?
and if you apply to group named “Crests” then well duh ofc owner wants free carry. apply to one of hundreds groups which are progressing just like you .
if people join groups called "crest farm " they have every right to expect certain level of performance.
most of declines come from simple fact that people apply to keys with way to low score / gear. and why they do ? because they are to lazy to farm up score first in lower dungeons . ofc trying to skip few steps is possible but it comes with a lot of declines.
You can type 8-11 and then the dungeon you want in the finder.
And when the owner wants 440 he can enter 440 in the requirement field (which means lower ilvl chars do not see the entry at all).
You’d have no reason to. It’s for DPS because as of now only the top X % of dps-ers get invited but a queue would be where everyone has equal wait time.
Yeah but… would it really matter when there is no tank and healer available? Waiting a long time in lfg premade or waiting for that unicorn in a random group generator. Seems to me in both you never get a group, but in the random one even less than never.
For DPS of course it would. Right now only the top of the cream get invited and the rest can spend 2 hours applying. With a queue all of them get guaranteed invites…eventually.
I do this sometimes but this search form seems to be using fuzzy search algorithm which is not a good fit for this and will return I.e +18 dungeons when searching for +8.
Adding a simple range filter is a 3h task for ux + junior dev and would make a feature we use all the time so much better.
I do think many aren’t aware of how you can search. I haven’t found a source (so far) either, that explains how it all works.
Whilst I wouldn’t use a solo M+ queue I have no real objection either. I can’t imagine it being very good. I don’t think it will remove any toxicity. If you want score or to get achievements it’s going to be harder to achieve in a random thrown together group.
The system needs to be smart enough not to put all casters in and it might be interesting on weeks where you want at least one or two classes with certain abilities.
some people were against solo shuffle too, at the end of the day it become the only fun way to do pvp in the game , same will happen with m+ but no one knows when
The fact that you put these rio numbers on those key levels show how little knowledge you have on how hard dungeons are at those levels.
Sorry but no, do your own key and let people join, that’s as good of a queue as any other.
You’ll still be waiting and you’ll be waiting WAY longer when you have to sit in a queue waiting for healers and tanks compared to making your own group.
So the group leader has no control over who he gets at all. No looking for a CR or a Lust or a stam buff etc, you just take whoever is next in the q?
I can see why this works for PVP but just cannot ever see that this would work for PVE. You might get dps sign up to it but i cant for the life of me work out why a Healer or Tank would.
I play all 3 casually and there is no way that i would want to join a group assembled automatically on a tank or healer, i cant even imagine that i would do it as a dps.
This might work out for people doing low keys under 10 that are not threatening but why would someone with a high IO and ILVL ever q this way for a 20?
Indeed. So a DPS signs up. They probably make some kind of estimation of when they need to become glued to the screen, but for the first few hours they just make sure to not get logged out. They might AFK or do WQs or something.
Anyway, they feel the queue might pop “soon” (which could still mean 2 hours). Okay, cannot AFK for more than a minute or you’ll miss the popup. I don’t need to list all the things you cannot do if you have to be prepared to reach your computer in 1 minute. You’re now rather glued to your PC.
So after some number of hours a group finally forms. The tank and healer involved here maybe felt generous, wanted to see what would happen or just weren’t getting invited to any attractive keys so they thought, what the hell. Do these two sound invested to you? No, they had a fast queue and will have a fast queue again next time. So barring any painful leaver penalty, well, they don’t have to commit to this group if it doesn’t seem promising.
But for the DPS, this queue has shaped their whole day. They had to be ready to invest half an hour at a moment’s notice like some kind of paramedics. But hey, if they do it every day, and somehow all runs finish, they will almost fill their vault!
not sure if your “rating” brackets were in line with Rio or PvP rating, but according to this, you would allow a 1.8k pepega into a 21? I personally wouldn’t.
Moreover, this is a really good idea, but perhaps for lower keys, I’d say up to +16. Would be far easier to farm crest fragments on alts and whatnot. For anything higher, the LFG system is kinda needed, one way or another.