Can you ban addons like WA

Blizzard doesn’t like to work too much, it’s true, but they’re a thorn in their side.

I think you don’t realize that if the players don’t have an addon, the game is playable, it just would be harder, and would require a better vision of the game.

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Harder in what sense ?

For people with “mythic raiding” skills doing normal mode yes. You are right.

For people with “normal raiding” skills doing normal mode… hard disagree… They absolutely need WA to remind them not to step on the fire. Its a meme at this point you know.

And for people with “mythic raiding” skills doing Mythic mode… well… its too hard to be playable by anyone else other than Korean geniouses. OR you get some WA.

Basically. We all need WA. In Raiding, M+ and PvP.

Isn’t that more DBM or Bigwigs instead of WA’s?

Weak auras, for what they do, can be theoretically banned, but nothing major in terms of tackling the perceived issue would change.

  1. You ban WA addon.
  2. Major uproar in community, positive and negative.
  3. Less dedicated players start to drop the game (probably majority of all WA users) because parallel solutions are too difficult and/or expensive.
  4. More dedicated players just switch to overlays instead of WA as addons. There is no legal way of protecting from this, therefore banning WA is net profit loss and pushing more hardcore playerbase to a space where you can’t chase them.

I wanted to reply here yesterday, but I paused myself to think on the topic. Launched Kingdom Come Deliverance 1. Second after launch, my NVIDIA 4070Ti overlay asked me if she can capture moments by herself automatically, or if I have any preferences.
Second you ban WA, people start working on functional WA overlay for the game.

WA are here to stay, it is just dependent on how much net loss in profits is Blizz willing to bet.

You’re pretty narrow minded if your scope of WA is it just prompting times and reactionary triggers to attacks…

You can literally make an ENTIRE UI with Weak Auras, and infinitely so much more… it’s one of the most versatile addons in WoW.

I’m just an HC raider but not having DBM would not bother me a lot. I ignore it most of the time anyways.
But not having it in general would be a major problem for the casual raids as they would need a proper raidlead to do calls instead… Now mix “casual raid” and “proper raidlead” and see how far you’ll get.

Today’s raiders are spoiled. It’s no longer the hardcore geeks, but many people who couldn’t even do normal without their trumpet reminding them of the fire. I have literally seen people not moving out of the fire because GTFO didn’t warn them.
I think the mythic raiders will actually be the ones that’ll adapt the fastest and find a way. In the worst case Blizz has to need stuff until it works. It’s the casual raids and the pugs that will fall the hardest.

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Didn’t you post this like a month ago?

A lot more people would play it. Humans have always. ALWAYS. Looked to take the easy way.

Or in other words… "damn… I can’t make a good argument as to why people shouldn’t install it for free and Blizzard allows it. I know! “Your argument is bad!”

Sadly for you, its also the unequivocal truth that it’s entirely optional.

Which they have no intention of doing.

They do. Its called the “add on’s folder.”

DBM is just a hard-coded WA. WA is a more custimizible version that can do the same thing, and many more htings.

How many times have you had a raid leader loosing its mind having to remind people of every single minute thing.

Raids with out DBM is replacing what a program can do by a person (the RL calling stuff out). And people get sick of doing repetitive stuff as we all know.

So either way, we all need DBM. Even you that can “live” with out it, but you cant live with out your RL telling you what to do. Not just to “not step in the fire” but also “move here in X secconds, or focus Y target”.

And the RL absolutely needs DBM to know how many secconds to X or Y mechanic to warn people.

You still need DBM one way or another.

Been there. And when you have people deliberately ignoring you it makes it even more disheartening to the point of “I’m just wasting my time. I’ll just let an add on do it.”

Agreed.

People are morons.

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I’d ban them in instanced content but allow them in the open world. No need to harm crafters, gatherers, questers, transmogers, and role players.

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WA I feel might need to be curbed, as it allows the importing of custom code into the game which may or may not be TOS breaking, and if a person imports a WA that is TOS breaking, they might not realise their account is at risk.

That said most addons are useful for people so disabling functions in WA that also hurts other addons might not be a good idea.

Raid addon reduction/removal is on the way

However, Hazzikostas explained, “We can’t be ignorant to the fact that many of our players are using addons.” Blizzard has noticed that some mechanics have become too reliant on addons, leading to less engaging gameplay. He said, “A player might say this was a boring encounter because I was doing my DPS rotation for three minutes except for the one time my addon told me to do something.”

Yea but is it really?

Until Blizzard crack the formula of making an engaging fight that is do-able (without massive frustration) without addons then addons will remain.

I won’t hold my breath.

are you troling or ?

the normal raid is done with a group in dungeon gear, and boss have no ability
(I think an LFR raid is more difficult than a normal raid)

It makes noise for sure, but sometimes you have to be firm instead of letting the fire spread, otherwise it gets out of control.

The most dedicated players will continue to play, because they are addicted (I am too)

I am not troling.

Let me remind you that people make meme videos like this…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTtzfGKldUk&t=0s

1:30 to 3:30… watch that !

Maybe you think you are an absolute pro for whom everything is easy and you do every single mechanic perfectly. And not only you, but also the people in your raid with you.

But alas… that is not the case for everyone… And since raids have 20 people in them… the chances of playing with atleast 1 Derek (see video) is quite high.

And the Retail Raid boss meme… that sounds like Razagesh to be honest…

Removing addons like DBM will certainly humble some players, and that’s not a good thing, people don’t enjoy being humbled.

People too used to addons. And probably will stop playing if addons are to be forbidden. I would vote to forbid addons, though.

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One of the TWW interviews with Holly she says Blizzard now have access to all of Microsoft’s gaming data which is quite something I’d say given that it’s got at least 25 years of what and how people have been playing on their PCs

It also means they can now legally pick away at any game engine or gaming system under the Microsoft umbrella to make more improvements and try completely different things that might not have worked or even been thought about since Blizz’s Dev lounge was an echo chamber for far too long.

But as you and I both know very well, whatever they implement will go through the WoWcode spin cycle and not work for weeks.

That’s all valid points I’ll rest my case