No, and you know why?
No tank is going to spend 30 minutes travel time each way to a dungeon, just to be flamed down for any and all minor mistakes and blamed for any wipe (if it’s not the healer getting the blame).
Could you imagine tanks wanting laid back groups, to kill everything, not skip and speedrun, (re-)learning how to find their way around the dungeons, skinning and herbing and looting even small mobs, and not wanting to spend more time watching YouTube vids in preparation than doing the dungeon, not being forced to use exorbitant amounts for consumables etc. because you do not want a dungeon run to last more than ten minutes. And then people reserve items, or only heal for “unused” so that the Tank is left with not enough G to even pay the repair bill.
Or I like to wait for the Healer to drink, or myself - no, not going to happen. DPS pulls next room, and blame me for not holding aggro.
To run a dungeon for me as a tank was a stressing, gold and time consuming experience, not to be repeated in the near future.
I would gladly tank for FUN and for a bit of loot for the repair But I won’t tank your speedrun dungeon groups!
Barely any guild has 4 members of your level range at any time. And if it does, it’s hardly a “guild” but just a crowd.
You were probably thinking level 80 when RDF is indeed somewhat redundant.
Not to mention that if he wants to run with guildies and friends, RDF doesn’t stop this.
It’s a complete non-starter of an argument.
This I do indeed agree with.
I was thinking from the perspective of a level 80 yes.
RFD lower level would obviously be alot more lucrative, especially on smaller realms. Therefore I highly suggest they add it.
Exactly, with RFD implemented, people can still form their own group with friends, I highly welcome RFD.
Doesn’t really matter but it’s RDF
Why you gotta hate on Razorfed Downs
You dont find tank because peaple expect their tank to be way better than themselves, stuff and skill, to be able to take ten mobs at once, to be paladin only for spell cleave. To know exactly everything and to always push for rushing.
If you want tank to be enough and not act like spoiled tinder princess, just accept weaker tank personally and on the global scale.
During leveling a ret or dps warrior can just take a shield at low lvl and you don’t need sunwell to do Utgard.
At 80 remember than an ilvl 180 tank will be at 20k hp and that it is enough
But if you want peaple better than yourself, don’t be surprised to wait. Indefinitely.
I like lfg as it is to take dps unable to deal good aoe
I like how you end your completely meaningless rant about how “you expect tanks to be better than you” with this “I dont even bring people who roll a certain class”.
Classic gatekeeper.
Not gatekeeper, it’s not about stuff skill or anything, but a rogue before they have the fan of knife won’t ask me to do the impossible for his meaningless speedrun
This sham is my only 80 and i am more than happy to heal weaker tank use chain heal on a group taking aggro
But i dont want to be insulted for my full blue lvl 75 tank because your run will be 3mn longer. Or have the group disband mid dungeon beacause i need stuff from the boss. (I actually love tanking but mained a shaman beacause it would be too hard too hard to start on a tank)
Tanks are just protecting themselfs, isn’t that their job?
Diddums, get better gear
Which tank exactly take 3 mins longer in WotLK instances? Cause I have a super hard time believing this is a thing that actually happened.
And thats what I have tried to tell people about their problems with finding a tank, people dont want to put themselves in that situation unless they have to so once even the not to socialy inclined tanks have gotten what they need they wont find enough random tanks around to do what they want to do no matter what is included in the game system wise.
RDF or LFG doesn’t change any of this is the point levied against you here.
I feel like it’s not that people don’t want to tank or heal, it’s just demand doesn’t meet supply
And you should see that all tanks here are saying the same thing, the gamestyle is too rushy and tanks are way more gatekeeped than mages because one just wait longer in dalaran and one has to invest a lot of gold, start as a dps trying to find item the actual tank doesn’t need, use his emblem on yanking item while beeing grouped as dps.
All that because you dont want a tank but a rusher with a titanium bladder.
I most certainly do not, I’m genuinely rather indifferent and will actually use crap at my disposal to make a run smoother, but go on, tell me how I’m telling tanks off.
And again, how is LFD any different in this from RDF?
Reality is, tanking and healing are easier roles than DPS and you should accept the responsibilities for that ease.
If you are nice with tank you are a good man, but a lot of people are not, please do exclude yourself from my “you” as it was for the whole community
And yeah i often see peaple on their add ons mesuring the time and exp ratio of the runs or leaving because i need the boss (since lvl 75 blue is not enough of course i ll need stuff)
Did the rogue who told me that lvl 75 stuff was too weak (whitch is a misunderstanding since this tank is not heroic lvl yet) really farmed normal mod to get full lvl 78 and craft epic stuff before going heroic? (I dont think so)
And does she use the no aggro poison when the tank is weak? (On this one i could bet no)
Nobody can take responsibility for a easy role since a post without responsibility can always be badly done without consequences and is then inherently easier (even if there is no cap on how good you are and how complex it can get)