Good thing you buffed frost to do damage as well as have great cc.
Good thing you made destrok hit so hard yet be tankier than an actual tank.
Lobbies so much fun now.
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I agree the damage is too high in arenas. The HP increase means nothing when you eat a 200k chaos bolt
Also they plan to remove broccoli next patch. How are resto druids supposed to heal through the huge burst? With silly little hots ticking 4-5k because of the countless of MS and dampening?
Are the devs even ok?
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I swear, all the assassins who couldn’t do well have rerolled to frost/destro
Nice lie about 200k chaos bolt
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Making up numbers as you go along. Honestly. You expect Blizzard to listen to people and feedback on these forums while everyone and their dying grandmother is pulling numbers from their rear.
I can’t describe joy of proccing AoE havoc then spamming triple bolts to people. You know that while your bolts fly on air someone gonna be dying soon uWu 
Just out of curiosity. On what rating do you play in any bracket?
https://youtube.com/shorts/glrkVKAj8Hk?feature=share
this caster meta accurate
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If only there were a site that could let us see spec representation. Oh wait, what’s this? Technology exists?
According to drustvar in SSQ above 2.4k cr N1 represented spec is Arms next to DH and in top 5 DPS 3 is melee and 2 is caster. Hmm weird.
Let’s check 3s. Oh wow, in top 500 N1 is assa next to arms? Out of 5 top dps only 2 spec is caster? Wait in NA in top 5 it’s all melee specs? Weird. According to our fellow classic poster it’s caster meta.
Casters are more than fine, but i don’t think that it’s purely a caster meta.
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200k cb ? in what dragonflight world are u living in ? maybe on a pve target or a person without a single pvp gear and is lvl 5.
what i see here:
- lock tanks cc and interrupts for his healer
- lock still does most dmg in the round
- lock wins the round
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what i see is that i wont play anything that has to still cast and are more easy for people to understand how to disrupt them than how to play with them on their team
i have lobby of 20mil dmg taken 60% of overall on my demo, i dont even care i killed ww and arms tunneling me to behind pillar 20sec from start and die there to all of my cd
anyone who want to play something that has to actually cast like affli/demo are free to do so but ill rather play something that doesnt cast onwards i dont have interest to tank this much zug on every game
there is many range dps that doesnt cast and they are alot more fun on this expansion
Not only that, but on top of this, the devs in their unlimited wisdom, nerfed DH/DK the natural counter of wizards to the ground. DH is still up, because it was like S+++ Tier when the season started, but DKs are just doing a lot of padding dps unable to kill anyone, who can kite(which isn’t hard with well placed circles and gates) and push a minor def cd to trade for a 3 min major offensive cd like Gargoyle/Val’kyr.
I dont have issues with current version of DK, i still clap casters. What DK struggles against is the melee spam where they are simply outmatched. Warriors absolutely eats DK´s. Dont play DH but DH are anything but struggeling right now. I would suggest people who complain to play the class they complain about atleast once. Statistically speaking we know people play whatever is op.
I dont know why people feel like melees should have a natrual advantage over casters. I play both casters and melees and the only caster i struggle against as a melee is mage n any other caster has to play significantly better than me to not straight up get ran over by the zugzug.
If something is op aswell as easy to play at the same time it´ll make up like 70% of all arena matches as we saw with fury warriors in Shadowlands and DH´s in the start of DF.
People exclusively look at the top of the ladder when making statements about what is strong n what isnt n yet at 2.4k all i see is melees n hunters. Everytime a caster dares to set his foot into solo shuffle it´ll be that one guy into 3 melees n if he doesnt go 0-6 n stop queing for the day its a christmas miracle.
I´d urge anyone whining about “caster meta” to simply play a caster in solo shuffle n then return with tales of their experiences. I´ve tried it n seemingly unlike most people i dont have an ego that causes me to become delutional. I play melee because its considerably easier n less frustrating in a chaotic enviroment eventhough i think casters look alot cooler.
Playing a caster in solo shuffle will in about 80-90% of the cases resault in being one caster into 3 melees which is the worst experience i´ve had in WoW PvP. Playing a melee n somehow magically ending up in a solo melee into 3 casters is just about equally bad however that happens maybe once per season, i only recall it happening once in my case but i did not enjoy that game either so i would like to see solo shuffle enforce 2 casters, 2 melees and 2 healers per lobby n both sides can stop whining.
Every single melee expect rogue rats stopped playing, some war here and there and dh. Just locks/frost mages/eles and that’s it, it’s nice that mage can blink half a cross a map while casting poly LMAO
mage is fun when it has mobility and instants 
when holinka comes make changes on its design to make it stand to cast 5x fb into 1x glacial and repeat then people stop playing mage
later the dev say he has no clue how ranges work and has never played one
cant wait on the changes he starts make when or if they start doing actual changes on designs
Thats a very delusional statement. This isn’t DF early Season 1 its late S1, a lot of changes happen’d in favor to casters and hunters in Solo Shuffle. And who cares how many melees play at low MMR?!
I love statistics so lets see what we got here in the real world not subjective “how i feel” world, by just comparing numbers with your INSANELY OP S Tier class the good ole DK servant of 20 Anima Arthas, who is no-more:
On the EU ladder we have 44 Frost mages over 3K CR vs 13 Unholy Dks at 3K CR and 1 Frost DK at the same rating so its 44 Frost Mages vs 14 DKs over 3K.
Just 1 caster spec has over 3 times as much players over 3K than an entire class and its Solo, the most savage place in wow for casters…or so they thought it is, when DF started and was fresh.
Lets continue shall we?!
23 Arcane Mages over 3K
19 Fire Mages over 3k - the supposed weakest solo shuffle spec of the mage class is still outnumbering the DK elite!
So, i guess, those damn evil mages, are just an outlier and are just the first born lucky child of blizzard, and other casters are just toast when the the big bad evil warriors, dks, dhs look at them, right?!
Say hi to 66 Destro Locks over 3k in Solo Shuffle, a spec that was supposed to be dead at DF launch!
35 3k Demo locks, that will soon receive buffs!
And their worst spec Affliction, has 14 players over 3K CR, like the entire DK class.
But yea i am confident, 73 3K+ Warriors, 20 3k+ Rets, 127 3k+ hunters(you got a good point with hunters, they know their radar)
145 3K+ Rogues, 36 3k+ WW Monks, 40 3k+ Ferals, 54 DHs, will take care of the caster situation…in Solo, only there.
Your class is still ruined.
And before we mention the 8 meme enhancers over 3k CR, we have to discuss:
58 3k+ Shamans vs 14 3K+ Dks.
Numbers don’t lie, people do.
Let that sink in.
Im a casual player n if i can play at 2.4k i would see that as an indicator that its doable for alot of players. I never said DK was strong currently but you say that DK loses to casters n i completely disagree with that statement, DK loses to hunters and melees which are extremely abundant n causes DK to fall out of the meta as a side effect. If you struggle into casters as DK outside of mages i would say thats a you issue.
Are you playing at 3k rating currently? im not so i have no insight into that rating. Blindly looking at statistics in a moving meta is pointless though because there is no rating decay, The demo locks sitting at 3k rating was pretty much all done pre nerfs, Destros were pre havoc nerf n you couldnt make me play affliction in solo shuffle at gunpoint. If you want to look at the top rated affliction locks though its all R1 players and their alts claiming the top spots just like in most class categories.
The issues with DK currently is that you get dumpstered by virtually any melee + hunters n i dont enjoy playing my dk into those matchups either. With how high dampening is deathstrike still doesnt feel good to press but spellwarden was absurdly overpowered. The issues DK is having is that they´re now less oppressive against casters ( still very favorable ) and still get destroyed by other melees. Beyond that i wasnt super happy about the virulent plague nerf but it did infact deal abit too much damage.
DK is primarly suffering from “Not being S+++++ tier” which is why its popularity is lower. As previously stated people tend to only play whatever is completely overtoned which is why instead of 3 DH´s per shuffle its now hunters n arms warriors everywhere. Take fury warriors as a prime example. Fury is very solid n probally atleast a strong B tier if not closer to A tier, but due to arms being S++++ tier you wont see people playing fury which artificially creates the illusion that its terrible due to lower representation.
You also exclusively look at statistics from the top players in the world while 99,9% of the playerbase dont sit at that rating making it utterly irrelevant to begin with.
i respect ur opinion, thats what ur experiencing.
but ye i personally like pure melee lobbys way more as dk then pure caster lobbys. to me it feels the higher the mmr goes the more opressive casters become.
100k ish and theyre usually with a frost mage throwing 150k glacials and 70k lances
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