Castercleaves are almost gone

Have you noticed that for the second expansion in a row besides Demo/Ele and SPlay castercleaves are gone? Fire/Ele - gone, Godcomp - gone, Ele/Boomy - gone, MLX - gone, Affli L.S.D. - gone. It feels that healing reduction is too strong at the moment and even these only two successful castercleaves have it.

It has to do a lot about with the fact that the game shifted into tempo oriented gameplay from setup based one.

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???

Casters are better than ever

The only viable melees are feral and rogue

  • Demo - very good
  • Affli - very good
  • Frost mage - broken
  • Shadow priest - broken
  • Ele - good
  • Arcane - good

So the only casters which aren’t great are Moonkin and Fire mage

This only contributes to caster cleaves. Caster cleaves are about PvEing people from range.

And this doesn’t remove the fact that these people still fear your healer to Narnia or Sheep spam him.

You’re confusing caster cleaves with RMP, that’s a setup comp

Prefer ele with war/dh/rogue.

Much more fun than castercleaves imho.

How are you defining ‘viable’?

They are but castercleaves aren’t. Casters play with other meeles Rogue/Feral/WW/Havoc/War. Do you even understand what are you reading?

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Melee/Ranged/Healer is how the game should be anyway imo. Melee and caster cleaves are both degenerate in their own way.

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he didnt question that. He said castercleaves which means double caster + heal are dead and he isnt wrong. Besides shadowplay you rarely see any caster cleaves and in awc they are almost non existent besides one team last cup.
Im myself not 100% sure why thats the case but i guess its because outside affli and shadow, most casters dont even do more dmg when left alone.

awc teams are not even playing mage lock into 2x melees anymore

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I can only talk about soloq perspektiv but if you have only one MS effect in the lobby that guy have a hugh advantage

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Nah, fury is (too) good too, uhdk is still top as well.

Thank you. That’s pretty much what I wanted to say. It seems that MS effect isn’t a bonus and utility that the spec brings but a requirement to build a 3v3 comp.

I played some Affli L.S.D. early season and then we started to struggle due to R Druid healing and that we were ran down. I played WW/Ele/H Pala a bit and it was extremely easy compared to L.S.D. The only team that gave us more problems was Fera/x/H Pala

I’m confused, when did demo become good? Those latest demo buffs barely moved it up to B tier when it was F.

Haven’t seen a single demo in awc yet. 3s? 2s? Shuffle? Look at the representation for this last week , still extremely low.

So how is demo very good? It’s barely average with the diehard demo fans trying all they can to make it work and even then it doesn’t shine.

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