The sad thing is Cata is still the most popular Classic version, more popular than Era, Vanila Anniversary, HC and SoD. I wish Blizzard devs would spend more time and resources on Cata and soon to be MoP Classic since it is the most played version and stop wasting so many resources on freaking SoD which is dying for sure in a few months.
What?
What was that?
Based on Ironforge , yes, Cata might have more playersâŚbut it doesnât lol. Thatâs Characters who are raiding. And basically , every player in Cata are raiding with multiple chars because thatâs the âend gameâ in Cata.
In Anniversary for exemple isâŚVERY different. I donât even have a 60 character yet and I know many who doesnât. And also many are not even raiding at 60 and yet, on Ironforge is close to Cata.
So Anniversary is pissing on Cata by miles. SOD and Anniversary is pissing on Cata by many miles.
You talk about feelings and opinions, I talk about facts. Even though Cataclysm is generally viewed as a âmediocreâ expansion at best, Cata has had more players than Era, SoD and Anniversary combined during the first two stages. And the gap will get much bigger in MoP.
Thatâs simply not true lol. Ironforge might show slightly more players than anniversary, but you gotta keep in mind this is a game mode where the average player has a handful of alts (atleast 3 for most), whereas on fresh people play 1 toon, rarely 2-3.
In addition, the ironforge numbers include people who dont even raid and rather just que arenas or rbgs, whereas people who dont enter a raid on fresh arenât even accounted for
Thereâs a reason the gameâs pop originally tanked with cata and also a reason blizzard is barely putting any effort to cata compared to anniversary and sod. And Iâm saying this as a cata enjoyer my friend
Having 3 (4 with Hardcore) different wow classic versions was a mistake. All I can contribute to that.
Only Blizzard knows the actual numbers of players for each version, we can just have educated guess from raid logs.
Greed? even if cata has 20000 unique players globally thatâs 260000 euros before taxes, and every time you hear âwelcome, weâve been expecting youâ more money goes into their account, and itâs not like they created a game from the scratch, itâs recycled content, count the tokens and other services, itâs fair to say that they clear like a million monthly, no? thatâs much much more than any private server will make, with 1-3 devs max, and yet the quality we get is as if some guy wanted to experiment with a private server for the first time, i donât accept such excuses
beautiful and well thought comment. I strongly suscribe everything you said.
My second experience with Cataclysm was much, much better. In 2010, I was too busy complaining on the forums about how the Alliance was treated, how the story was not what I wanted, how I have Thrall fatigue. Now I actually spent my time ⌠playing the game. OK, Iâve quit for the past 2-3 months for sure, but I mostly enjoyed it, I did my loremaster title and the dungeon achievements I wanted. Canât wait for MOP to come.
Facts? What facts? Hello ?
Do you know how to make a difference between Characters and Players?
This guy! Cata wishes to have Anniversary players, let alone Anniversary and SOD combined.
Repeat after me : Cata was a dead expansion and it will be until MoP launches. Also its the worst of them all.
I think itâs safe to assume that Anniversary is the overall most popular version of Classic, even though ironforge.pro says different (that is, strictly based on the number of logs). I have a character on the Anniversary realms aswell, and the world is actually crowded with players. You canât really say that about Cataclysm, unfortunately.
I also like vanilla for its leveling journey. But I canât understand why any player interested in raiding would pick Anniversary over Cata/MoP realms. Just taking a quick glance at logs, my previous guildmates and friends who rerolled are clearing MC/BWL in 30-35 minutes per raid, stacking every consumable and worldbuff the game has to offer. How is oneshotting bosses with no mechanics in 15-20 seconds fun gameplay? I even understand the SoD guys more. I have a friend that still raids competitively over in SoD, and atleast their Mythic runs take closer to 2 hours, even without whipes.
Funny fact cata is nowhere as dead as wotlk was after a billion months of garbage icc when sod released. You had 3 people max in dalaran on the biggest eu realms
Thatâs a complete lie.
But timing. When was that? At the end of Wotlk. At the very end. And it was for a month or so.
Here, educate yourself since I see Cata players are âŚuneducated. At least some of them : https://ironforge.pro/population/classic/overall/
On 2024-04-10 it had around 140k raiders vs 50k on âŚI assume the very last weekend (?) before Pre-patch on 2024-05-15 . Even on the worst month of Wotlk, it had more than almost the entire time of Cataclysm.
Cata Bad.
I know itâs hard to read a graph but you should look at it again
Also when wotlk started to hard collapse it was only people logging to raid and then logging off for litterally a full week, which is NOT the case now. You could compare any dalaran screenshot from Jan 2024 up to cata prepatch compared to Stormwind/Orgrimmar now and itâs night and day lmao
I always love when people who are not even playing the game try to get a wrong point
TLDR there is right now 10x more activity than there was roughly after Halion release, and having 2x more chars on ironforge pro does not prove anything considering it was complete raidlogging. There was nothing to do pvp wise, nothing to do pve wise except clearing icc for the 93891831th week in a row and having 2 good items to split for 15 casters, and nothing to do outside
Unironically cata saved wotlk classic, and cata is thriving way more than wotlk was at the exact same stage of the game
Better luck next fresh
Like people were litterally playing sod ALL week and slave-logging for their weekly ICC with their wotlk guild, which everybody started to hate anyway since it was 30% nerfed
Eventually people stopped to log at all even if it was 2-3h a week because it was pointless anyway, loot was pointless and they just used their time to prepare for sod p2 or p3
As a completionist player i had alot of fun in Cata. the expansion allowed more freedom in solo gameplay doing previous content.
Transmog hunting, Gold farming and Achievement hunting became more accessible and Freed me from the limits Wotlk had with for example Vanilla/Tbc instances not taking Very long or requiring to get decent size group to clear and was something you do with your Friend or solo.
Pvp changed alot being Faster and more polished then the classic design when CC and waiting on cooldowns was half the fight.
Never was a huge fan of Arena and always find myself enjoyng BG gameplay more and Even tho Rated BG was a drama with the free Conquest for not Trying and ruining the pvp community with making it feel barely rewarding.
it did provide a option to really experience the Cataclysm gameplay when you searched for it.
i have put over 100 days /played into my main during cataclysm so i cannot deny that the expansion was horrible.
Some bugs did ruin the fun but was always able to Look past it and find enough to do instead what is not broken. and found myself chasing everything i did not collect or completed yet and prepare for Mists of pandaria what excited me most
Dude are you serious ? Cata is staying at 110-120k raiders sinceâŚforever and peaked at 320k.
WOTLK peaked at 630k and stayed good times in 400k+ , 300k+ , 200k+ . It gone below 100k in the last few weeks of the expansion and I assume because people waited for pre-patch or just played alts. You want glasses dude? Tell me and I will understand.
What? Cata is raid logging since ⌠let me look ( the graph is right here ) , since November last year. What are you talking about?! And how âŚdo you know which is not the case now
? LOL âŚ
Hello? In January 2024 Wotlk had a 200k+ in every week. Your pathetic expansion, Cataclysm is , again, staying at 110-120k since November last year. You no good at math ? Is fine, ask chatgpt. Hint: Its almost double the players LOL.
I have 4 lvl 85 chars on this pathetic expansion. I just logged in today to find SW empty, almost and only 1 layer. Wotlk had layers every single time.
Doesnât proof anything? :)))))))))))))
IT PROVES YOUR PATHETIC EXPANSION IS BAD! People are raidlogging THE same in Cataclysm. What do you think they are doing? Picking up flowers? LOL âŚ
What?! Literally, and I mean literally, Cata is the less played expansion from all Classic.
Back to your cave. You are very bad at trolling âŚ
Not the smartest level 60 paladin poster for sure
Better learn about numbers, dates and trends
You are yapping for no reason, wotlk was dead after sod got released, and as i said ironforge.pro numbers doesnât prove anything regarding raid logging or not
Cy@
itâs an alright expansion, not the worst and definitely not the best.
iâm specifically very dissapointed in the last patch since it added no new content except of a raid and the 3 new dungeons that you canât Que for separately from the other heroics (for some reason lol)
edit: oh and warlock is an absolute mess and i canât wait for the revamped version of this class in MOP
oh boy⌠iâve got some bad news for you brother
Prots were superb, holy not as broken OP as they are now, Retribution pallies were mediocre.