Less CC paired with less zugzug is always a good idea.
Yeah, PVP is trash right now, especially if you play solo shuffle as a healer, you’re just doomed to be in constant cc. You’ll be lucky if you play against the comp who shares dr
/sigh
God I feel for healers in solo shuffle.
I ain’t denying DHs are strong, because I know we are. Disc is very strong, same for monks, rogues etc.
Are completely fine.
I’m not talking about DHs being strong or not. CC chains are mandatory for arena and it’s actually great there’s space for counterplay these days. Removing CC from the game leads to even more advantage for Meta (ZugZug HULK SMASH) classes such as warrior, dk, monk etc etc.
I don’t see how is it going for the game.
I never said get rid of CC altogether. I said there’s far too much of it, and far too many micro CCs that make the game frustrating to play, and feels there’s 0 DR.
By this I meant “Every CC removed/nerfed leads to…”. Removing death coil from warlocks means like 25x harder lifetime for them for example.
Okay, do you have specific suggestions on what exactly should be removed/nerfed?
Don’t tell me you’re talking rogues
Na, not them in general. I do BGs for fun and my god the CC in those are horrendous especially. Rogue CC has always been ridiculous
Get rid of the micro CCs, and go back to the old big ones.
I don’t understand what you guys mean by that? Like Deathcoil or Shaman knockbacks?
Well no, deathcoils always been a thing. They introduced a lot more CC, for example, priest roots, etc. Micro CC means all the ccs that last 1-2 seconds one after the other. Which is annoying to deal with.
Ok, gotcha. So you want people to have 100% uptime on priests instead of 99.99%. Well, fair enough.
They already have one of the best CCs in the game. And they’ve never had root until this expansion
Sorry, bro, but I don’t want to talk anymore.
This is obvious trolling.
Not at all. You’re telling me Priests had roots before? Priests do have one of the best CCs in game. Instant fear to the other side of the map. mind control. Denial isn’t cool
Yes. Priests had roots back in MoP.
No? Priests have melee fear. And ranged dispellable stun? Are you talking about fearbomb? Is it still in the game tho?
Nobody is even playing MC. MC is same DR as fear. It’s the only “Self-CC” spell in the game. I’m happy there’s option not to pick it in talents finally, because this spell is absolute garbage. Imagine Chaos Nova stunned you also with no DR on you, lol.
Priest’s CC is between terrible and bad. Shadowpriests DO have silence on top of that kit, but they’re punished for it with 0 mobility. They’re literally afk while melees are destroying them. Taking away ANYTHING from sp at this point will result in 0% winrate.
An instant fear that can fear everyone in the area to the other side of the map
There’s just no arguing with someone that defends their OP class. Disc has been very strong and top for a while now.
i mean you can literally play wotlk or vanilla if you want that? Why are you not doing that?
People always say everything was better in the past but refuse to play classic expansions.
Because the game has changed far too much for me to go back. People refuse to play previous expansions because things have changed. It wouldn’t feel the same.
Well, Chaos Nova can stun Everyone in the arena for 5 seconds, allowing to do 200k dps by cleaving. So what? It is not just unrealistic, it is impossible for a SP to triple fear enemy team. Unless the game is on like 1400.
I’m not defending? Why are we talking priests if the topic is about “CC in this game”?
- DPriest is very strong, not OP. It’s good not because of it’s CC, but because of it’s preventive cooldowns. 2nd charge of PS is toxic and needs to go.
- Your statement is there’s too much CC.
I’m replying with “But disc has only ONE melee fear on 30 seconds CD” and you’re replying with
Wth man?
Classic typical thing.
-I want old gameplay!
-But it’s literally there, you can join and play.
-I don’t want old gameplay, things have changed!
Listen, I don’t wanna argue you. I tried my best with logics, but in the end of the day you’re gonna respond with TL;DR, as you’ve already done before.
You bring up no arguments, instead you write things like “It feels, Disc is OP” etc. etc.
You started this topic as TOO MUCH CC, but when we find out it’s not too much CC at all, you respond with Shut up disc is op.
Not really… I’ve spent a long time adapting to the current game, gearing up, questing, gaining rep, collecting mounts, etc. So it’s not really a “classic typical thing”. I’ve spent a lot of time on my current account to go back and start a fresh. Major difference there bud.
Well you started it with;
Also, I’ve always stuck to my word about there being too much CC, it’s people like you changing the subject and DH bashing (classic)