Challenge based FOMO is a good thing

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Of course it is a good thing, if you take fomo out of rewards I assure you player count would drop significantly.

I still believe Druids should be given access to M.T skins. People that play other classes can equip and tmog hundreds of armor/weapon but there are a dozen shapeshifting options.

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You’re thinking of the wrong solution.

The problem here isn’t Druid’s lack of access to MT skins. It’s Blizzard’s laziness to design new Druid form skins.

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My general feeling on this topic is FOMO has its place, as long as it isn’t overdone. If you’re causing players to goblin-mode this game to avoid FOMO, then that steps over a line. WoW fortunately does not do that, unlike games like Destiny.

I’ve always maintained the position that having items or achievements no longer be obtainable or become very difficult to obtain is ultimately good for long-term health. As long as there is plenty of opportunity afforded to players to gain those items when they are available.

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I honestly cannot remotely fathom how anyone could come to that opinion.

Time-Limited Rewards are there to reward players for participating and completing Challenges under set conditions.

Think of it like competing in a Marathon. You get a medal for the participation. And then a different medal if you run it again next year.

If a new player has come to WoW and is upset because a Mount or a Transmog from 10 years ago isn’t available anymore, then they have come to WoW for the wrong reasons.

They should be concentrating on the rewards available today, and working toward them. Not worrying about what is happening in the past.

WoW has been using a Time-Limited Reward system for years. Yes it has increased over time. It is there to encourage participating in the most recent content, which is healthy for the game, because it means that there is a good sized player base actively playing.

Whilst I appreciate one of the attractive parts of WoW is its vast history. That history is still there to explore and there are still plenty of nice rewards to collect from those eras. It’s not as if Blizzard are wiping a clean slate every time a new patch comes out.

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I’ve said it before and I will say it again:
FOMO is sheeple-idiocrazy.
Putting value on scarcity in itself is - imo - idiotic, and very “Smol energy”-personality.
If your value is based on how little others have something — You should reevaluate and rethink, cause that way of thinking is … VERY narrowed and self-centered extreme.

I put value where it’s worth:
Is it pretty/interesting/fun/cool?
Does it make me happy/(positive emotion)?
Was it exciting or challenging to get? (Time =/= challenge)

I do NOT put value as:
Do others like it?
Am I alone in having it?
Are others blocked from getting it?

I despise the 2nd way of thinking cause I feel like it’s a HUGE part of what ruins the entire world we live on…

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I disagree,
Rewards for a big challenge you see on other people should be inspiring you to do that content yourself. Problems are:

  • Wow Evolve in terms of gameplay, giving players another perspective on the challenge.
  • Wow Raise the level max at each expac, making old content unchallenging.

FOMO should not be a thing. No content should ever get retired from the game. But the base level system on which the game is sit on is going against those two sentences if you want rewards to keep being valuable. I don’t think FOMO is good for the game to feel rewarding, but FOMO to be the only viable band-aid they putted on a System that’s utterly doomed to fail.

Still, Blizz could snap-shot the gameplay and keep an image of how your character should be played in any content they normally retire. Or like the Mage Tower, they could scale it to max level and ajust it when it’s required to keep a similar challenge, to give the same reward. I got many Mage tower appearances in Legion. Still i think anyone doing them today has as much, if not more, credit to be rewarded with those appearances.

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Lots of previously removed content should make a return, potentially with a catch. I.e only available a handful of times a year so those that really want it at least have a chance to obtain it

Awesome things never returning on a video game isn’t very awesome at all. How special will you feel in an empty world
I’m sure the NPCs will /cheer you

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Well written!
It feels like majority of people are complaining about FOMO/timegated stuff and cry about past items such as CM/MT/etc. but don’t even put slight effort into obtaining the items that are currently available - before they are removed. Most of them are probably trolls or lowbies who want everything handed out to them because they “pay subscription” which in their heads = “I pay therefore im obliged to receive it in a mailbox”. In reality they are either lazy or can’t defeat the challenge.
Funny how nobody talks about PvP Elite sets being timegated but everybody rages about MT/CM sets and weapons… Says alot about those individuals. :wink:

Ever heard of prestige?

No that’s a totally random take lol. You have 1 season in some cases 1 expanison. Deal with it or beat it…

Not really, if they made items that were removed obtainable again, i’m pretty sure old players would just quit. That’s why timegated content is healthy and rewarding for people who stay subes and actually play the game.

He is if he has better/harder/unobtainable cosmetics than you are, so… Jokes on you.

but… Prestige?

That’s exactly the reason, don’t deny it.

“Nothing wrong with that”
It is wrong if you are coping to get something that will never be added to game ever again and being depressed and toxic about it.

Agree to disagree then.

Nope, because:

So you weren’t capable of defeating CM/MT? You still aren’t capable of getting elite in SS?
There’s a difference between being sheeple-idiocrazy or just being bad-lazy.

This is a perfect example of when somebody gets tired of their own toys and wants everybody’s elses toys.

Nah just make new rewards, that way you keep the game running.

You know its only forums that are being jealous about timegated stuff right? Other people are actually playing the game to achieve those rewards, but sure! Quit if you want. One less beggar.

This goes out to all of you fomo beggars! Git to the good.

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Nope. He might FEEL special, but he’s not. He’s just the same as everyone else.

I don’t partake in that nonsense. It’s a game. With digital stuff. As far as I’m concerned there IS no prestige attached to any of it. We’re all just playing a game; wow, such a feat.

I will definitely deny it because FOR ME that’s just not the case. I get an item because I like the look of it. That’s it. No more reason needed.

Hey now… Nobody’s ‘being depressed and toxic’ about it. OP stated an opinion and other people, me included, are just stating theirs. That doesn’t make them ‘depressed and toxic’. I’d say the way YOU are conducting yourself is quite insulting and aggressive, so maybe look at yourself first before you call others ‘toxic’.

That’s fine. :+1:t3:

I don’t agree with that either. It’s just less of a problem because those sets are less unique in their designs (they’re usually just recolours) and they’re often just tier sets; we have access to plenty of those. Does it suck we can’t get ALL the colours? Sure. But to me that’s not enough of a reason to complain about it.

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Congratulation. You just took the only positive aspect while ignoring the rest.
I am not sure if you just want to read what confirm you or my english is not good enough for you but here again in simple.
Yes the hardcore players that will be able to do the challenge will feel rewarded.
But it is only the hardcore players in the end.
It is toxic medicine because

  1. New Players will feel like they are only worth less then long time players and will go in this see of entertainment not to WoW but to something else.
  2. Other long time players will not feel of this as a reward anymore but a cage to keep them locked in so they will not strive away. Because those are telling him that he has to decide between WoW and something else and as you know, there is a game fatuige.
    But this are not telling him that he should take a break and enjoy it moderate but that he has to decide if he after all this time still want to play WoW.

In the end Blizzard has to decide if they think it is worth rewarding/trapping players with this as WoW will not recover or the damage of removing the exclusivity will be worse then the good effect it will bring.

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Blizzard already stated that they wont be bringing removed, progress based stuff back into game. So those discussions are empty.

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Said Jelincic randomly with not a shred of evidence to support the claim

Never said I would quit. Read thoroughly next time

I have plenty of Unobtainable items that have been removed
Nobody is begging

Narrow minded

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When I read comments like this I wonder why they play WoW in the first place.

It really sounds like the game isn’t for them at all.

They’re just complaining about Core parts of the game. There must be more suitable games for them out there.

If the game doesn’t work for you, don’t try and force a change which ruins it for other people.

It’s not! Its in your mind.

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This is a reasonable way of doing it.
Having titles (such as Ahead of the Curve) be limited is fine, that shows a degree of accomplishment.
But mogs, mounts, pets, toys and similar should not be removed. Those with the skill to achievement the unlock early have up to four years to show off their snazzy gear but then it becomes easier to acquire over time as players gain levels, gear and new abilities. This works well enough for Raid gear / Tier Sets (the most sort-after gear in the game generally.

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Its not reasonable in the slightest.

The rewards are there to encourage participation. But if those rewards are available again in the future, there is literally no point doing the content. You might as well just wait.

They’re a line of text in a UI. they mean nothing.

People want to ride a mount or have a weapon or pet to show off their accomplishments. Not a line of text.

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Applicable to X but not Y? Just your own opinion?
Maybe others see it as both X and Y ?
Titles and mounts/weapons?

This whole notion of , don’t reintroduce stuff as i’ll feel a little less special , is ridiculous.

The only thing that would make me feel ‘special’ on WoW? was if I banged the AQ gong and got the Black Qiraj tank mount. Again just my opinion

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That’s because it is ridiculous. That is not what people are saying.

This is why I find this topic infuriating. Because the people who scream FOMO don’t actually understand why Time-Limited rewards exist.

It’s not remotely about feeling special for having something.

The reality is, these topics always come down to 2 sides who will never understand each others points of view.

Whilst I understand why some people don’t like Time-Limited Rewards. I simply don’t think they fully understand why they exist and what value they add to the game.

If you stopped using Timelimited rewards the game would be finished. There would be no need to participate in the challenging content, and players would go and find new challenges to play.

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Yup, if someone is collectioner and sees there’s no way to collect everything in the game then why bother? People aim to complete something in 100% and if they see it’s not possible then there’s no point in even trying. I tried lately to finish one game in 100% then I’ve read I skipped some secret passage with artifacts and I just rushed main plot :smiley:

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