Choose Your Own Gear in Dragonflight Season 4

[Bigbazz-tarren-mill (Bigbazz)]

Why don’t you allow players to choose which DF tier they wanna play and put them ALL in the game updated, if you’re going to recycle content because you’re lazy, at least make it interesting. We went from corruptions as a crazy final season to “which set do you wanna use again guyz”… It’s lazy, so lazy.

Anyway, S3 has the best gameplay for Warrior, but you gotta balance the game because some specs are doing like 20% more damage than others, it’s ridiculous.

@Maxinmus-silvermoon

@Vallhela-argent-dawn

Make all tier available ! Well i dont agree so many players are gonna be left unhappy with these outcomes they should just have the sets scale as they did in the seasons that they got used with the same dmg % increase

@Maxinmus-silvermoon

Trying to make sure all 3 tier sets are balanced with the other tier sets, and those tier sets from other classes and specs is sheer madness. Like you’re expecting Blizzard to be able to equally balance 3 tiers worth of set bonuses for over 30 specs! It’s hard enough with just one tier bonus.

You can’t simply scale them up, especially since some specs have been redesigned in 10.1. Wouldn’t work.

The game isn’t balanced anyway, if they aren’t going to balance it then at least make it interesting.

[Phyrrax-silvermoon]

As we get to select set looks, this means the PVP elite set will be of the selected season / spec, but what about the Elite weapon looks? Will we get new ones? Or can we pick from previous seasons too?
(I missed out on S1 weapons, so I’d be happy if they returned)

[Achillos-silvermoon]

Provide the option to mix and match between all of them(or the ability to choose one of them in-game) that way everyone is happy

[Jetaimelol-nekrosh]

Hi there, thanks for coming up with such a suggestion, but i have big concerns about this. PvE and PvP are 2 very different game-modes. What works best in PvE usually doesn’t work out in PvP and vice versa. Some set bonuses are sometimes so irrelevant that people skip them alltogether to get better secondary stats.
Looking at different streamers and videos being made, aswell as looking at the actual poll and the set boni being voted, i can see that the pvp/pve issue is a thing. I’d rather have a clear distinction between pvp sets and pve sets and not making them usable for example in the opposite gamemode, or just make all the sets available and let people freely chose whatever set they want to take when the season starts.
The PvE community being the predominant one, i’m pretty sure the PvP community will suffer quite a bit over those set polls.
Kind regards

[Murtinger-drakthul]

why do people who play pve decide the set for people who play pvp?
For example FROST MAGE, s3 is terrible for pvp and almost no one plays glacial spike build.

[Uda-uldum]

I appreciate the good will, but its the worst idea you guys had recently.

People are NOT having an informed vote here. You reworked the classes by a lot since S1. Some more than others.

For example, how would a RDruid S1 tier set interact with a S3 reworked RDruid? I dont know… how could I know in 1 week you give us to vote?

Only you have the data and manpower to even do a back of the envelope calculation on those effects.

Leaving the community vote for them based on “power perception” or whatever that might be… is a mistake…

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However you have already announced it. So IMO you have 2 options:

A) Say your sorry and backtrack. Valid option.

B) Say that after consideration all 3 tier sets will be available for purchase and you will just tweak the numbers a bit along the way in S4 depending on what people use most.

Either options, even the most radical ones are valid here.

ANYTHING except letting people vote. Please change your mind. Dont let this go live…

[Alewín-argent-dawn]

Frankly my choice of gear is to unsub for S4 because there’s nothing new in it

I’ve been enjoying Dragonflight for the most part, but we’re already bracing for a content drought with an illusion of listening to community feedback. If Blizzard were actually listening (and prepared to act on what they heard), there would be a 4th raid and some new dungeons planned.

Instead it’s just using “Fated” to hide the fact that each season was effectively 8 months long in terms of content.

[Bluerose-mandokir]

Do your job and make new and different sets for pvp and pve

[Lysende-arathor (Lysende)]

Honestly, for druid I want S1 appearance to win because that’s the one I don’t have (at least the Mythic and LFR sets). That’s even though obviously S2 looked way better.

[Whisperer-defias-brotherhood (Whisperer)]

By the way it wasn’t mentioned, because most feedback adresses how horrible the tier set bonus idea is, but the apparearance should at very least be recolor, instead of just making it so it’s the appaerance that most people can obtain already.

[Takirukido-mograine]

@Aina-argent-dawn

I feel like you should just let us pick whatever set we want rather than voting.

PVP is already a nightmare to balance as it is

[Utyr-ragnaros]

Bring recolors with consistent color combinations please. Looking forward for a full black S3 DK set <3

[Nevermonk-blackmoore]

@Lysende-arathor

Honestly, for druid I want S1 appearance to win

imagine voting on transmog

thats a new level of troll

[Whisperer-defias-brotherhood (Whisperer)]

@Takirukido-mograine

PVP is already a nightmare to balance as it is

PvP is super-disbalanced especially if there is no choice. Last season Rsham effectively had no tier set. How is that balanced?
If you have choice at least one of those set might actually be usable and not completely trash.

[Utyr-ragnaros]

Actually, since they are at introducing seasonal reward of older season sets… Why not just bring back the entire palet of sets from all previous seasons? This is essentially that… Every 4th season of each xpac could reward a token that one can exchange for an old set. Simple stuff, and would definitely hook people in, while it’d prob cause less emotional damage to people who are not on board with the reintroduction of old things.

[Нубасенька-gordunni]

story of my life

[Vandel-stormscale]

Just give all of them to us, the final season is supposed to be fun and imbalanced, and that’s taken from your own mouths.

[Cavanagh-chromaggus]

I see some people here posting that it would be hard to balance the three sets for each class… I presume thoughts coming from their rich game-design experience.

Here’s my two cents.

Set balancing can put close to no workload on the Blizz team.
Historically, the Blizz team has always been more concerned with the 0.1% of top players playing this game, and balancing it only for them. The rest of us, who do not like to go above M+20 are forced to play around a meta set by people who play this game like it’s their job (and for some of them, it maybe is). Balancing this game for the top 0.1% sure is a nightmare, I am certain this requires a lot of simulations and brain-power invested into balance from the design team. But do we need that?

So let’s presume that for Season 4, we have all DF Sets to choose from. I foresee that:

• All sets will be simmed by the community before the patch even gets released.
• Popular community websites will release a ‘Tier set ranklist’ based on sims.
• Part of the community will go for the set that enables them to play a certain build.
• The majority of the community will go for the top1 set from those ranklists.
• The 0.1% of players will go for the best set/build.

Clearly, some sets would be left behind in a ‘B’, ‘C’, ‘D’ tier. Blizz would only need to do a slight touch and buff them 5/10/15/20/100% and let the community sim them again. Rinse and repeat until all sets are in an ‘acceptable’ level (I don’t mean 100% balanced, just ‘good enough’). It’s not like you see any ‘B’ tier classes in the rio top100 mythic list.

Obviously I am very pro-give-us-all-three-sets. For some reason I kinda expected that to happen for Season 4, and was left a bit shocked that we’re doing this weird forums voting instead.
For me it’s a no-brainer… Seasons 1 to 3 introduced sets that clearly favored certain class play-styles. Something like Blizz saying “In this season, I want you to switch your build to this one”, which… is questionable, but I get it. It would be 100% acceptable if players still had the choice to not switch to the new set. Which is why I was certain that in season 4, I would not be forced to play the same playstyle from season 3.

Example - I have not played my shaman at all in season 3, since I hate the primordial wave playstyle, I like the Lightning one a lot. I kinda want to play my shaman, but when I log it in and see Primordial Wave, I immediately lose motivation and switch to something I like.

I implore Blizz to use the experience they gained from Diablo3 (remember how in most of the early seasons, only one class set would dominate the leaderboards) and give players variation. This is the same “I don’t want to play the boring Hammer of the Ancients barbarian if I want to climb higher rifts” problem, now moved in WoW, like it never happened in D3.

[Aundra-nordrassil (Aundra)]

This should’ve been in game and only with a max lev char and relative class but no, let the trolls have it.

[Kàido-ravencrest]

please separate PVP from PVE!