Balance druid is op in rated bgs, unh dk is opped in shuffle yet they either get NO NERFS or getting minor nerfs and some compensating buffs. How is this supposed to be fair and normal? Every patch dh is getting nerfed more and more, and by every i mean every! Killing the class will make this game more dead than it is now you know
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Maybe because itâs overperforming everywhere? 2v2, 3v3, solo shuffle, mythics? What was DH not the best at? Rated BGs only? Making it not deal 20% more DMG than everything else just for existing is not killing the class lol. They got nerfed for a reason.
No idd but the past repeat itself, mages cry and they get buffed wanna bet that mages are going to be mandatory AGAIN for high keys. U guys cry and blizzard makes u OP haha.
To be fair. Did you see Fire Mage back in Season 1 of DF. They werenât even doing tank damage.
Crocodile tears
Did u ever see destruction warlock OP? Yes 1 season just 1 that was in shadowlands thats it. Same with survival hunters, i have a better example did u ever see FROST DK as META nope never happened.
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M+ balance is in a sorry state, for sure.
You got 2 tank choices, 3 healer choices and 3 dps choices.
Now, tank and healer cannot be helped too much. Itâs just part of the class design. But leaving Havoc OP and Augmentation for the second season in a row since it came out is ludicrous. Buffing mage on top of that is just the cherry on the disaster cake.
Since week one of the season they were told this but first itâs the race to world first excuse and they canât make changes and then itâs that the players already spent time on these characters excuse so we canât nerf them too much.
Itâs revolting. In the meanwhile the rest of the community is up in arms unable to join groups. So take your pick. Either nerf during the RWF and screw them or nerf after and screw the fotm rerollers. Screwing the rest of the community has this result. Is pissing more people off really the solution?
Stop perpetuating this cycle of mediocrity.
Twaddle, every tank is represented above 3500. Bearing in mind that the best pushers gravitate towards the strongest specs its not a stretch to say every tank is there or there abouts.
All healers? Same story.
Iâm not saying balance is great or even good, but man, the hyperbole and outright drivel that gets posted here.
I literally said that on the following sentence. The drivel is your post.
Itâs disingenuous to say every tank is represented therefore itâs gonna be taken on high keys. Only an organised premade group would parse those keys.
The tanks this season are DH and prot paladin. You clearly donât know the scene on 24+ keys if you donât know that. No other tank is getting invited.
Hey, itâs better than last season where it was just guardian.
You are so overreacting to these minor changes, my brother in Fel. Youâve already sacrificed everything, surely you can give 3% more of your DPS to the cause of defeating the Burning Legion.
So all of the other tanks have timed 24,25,26,27,28âs etc but the only tanks getting invited to 24âs are prot paladin and DH.
That makes zero sense.
This isnât poor balance, its the community doing what the community does.
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On pugs, yes. Unless you are part of the best premades in the world, you arenât getting in, no.
I donât get what is so difficult to understand. Have you actually tried? I have people in my guild that do run 24 and above.
The community will make the groups that have the higher chance to succeed. This is perfectly normal.
What needs to happen is having a smaller difference between the best specs and the worst. No one has illusions of perfect balance.
Again, on the post you first quoted i said that for healers and tanks that is more difficult to achieve due to how they are designed. Yet you made a faux outrage when i answered your point on the very next sentence.
But, for DPS there is no excuse. Itâs mostly numbers and those can be balanced. DH is not meta cause of their utility. Itâs cause their damage numbers are abnormally high.
You are striking me with an agenda given your first post. A narrative that the game is balanced and itâs the players that are wrong as you happily stroll around on +18 keys thinking you know best. Itâs arrogance of the highest order.
So do I. On non-meta specs as well. Who would have imagined it?
The heck? Iâm inviting DKs if Iâm running the group, thatâs because DHs and Paladins are meta, hence the chance of getting some âHigh IQâ player that will ruin my key are pretty big.
Just a bit earlier a friend of mine invited a monk tank in his everbloom 24, full pug.
The biggest m+ rating in my guild is a prot warrior, and it takes average of 10 mins to get an invite (It takes me 30 mins on mage).
Can we stop exagerating?
Oh Lord, the diss them on the score angle. Always the mark of a strong argument. Especially since some of your 20âs were boosted, or at the least canny group creation.
âI have friends that do 24âs,â another strong argument 
That doesnât make your point more valid. Arrogant? Youâre trying to look down on my score, Iâve timed higher keys than you this season and last season.
Again, what youâre moaning about is a result of community perception, not class balance. Could you stop conflating the two? This is a âyouâ problem, not me not getting where youâre coming from.
Streamers and therefore community have decided that pink and purple good, others no invitey, most probably donât even understand why.
That wasnât faux outrage, that was me calling out ignorant bs.
And? Did i not say pugs? Are you telling me your guildies are pugging 24+ off meta? Or did you fail to actually read what i posted like the other person?
Read a phrase and go off it. 
Lol i never got a boost in my life. Quite the contrary. Iâm often the one boosting.
I will give you evidence if you want them. Itâs on raider io go to m+, 25+ and see the results. I canât link it here cause itâs not permitted. I am sure you can make an effort to inform yourself.
No itâs not community perception. Certain classes are overpowered and make keys easier.
Well, you should call yourself out then, cause you clearly donât know what you are talking about. You donât listen to your buddies trying to get into keys for 3 hours straight and not getting on cause they arenât meta, feeling forced to reroll. No, itâs just them imagining things. Heard it here from Dejarous. No more problem. Itâs a community problem, not a balance problem.
Please inform the top groups to start running brew tank with holy priest alongside destro warlock, marks hunter and say feral for the top keys. Itâs all community perception. You can do this guys! Time the 30 gogogo! Dejarus is waiting. Said it was possible so it must be. Be better guys! 
u dont even have 3k score mate. and off meta is very viable on 27 and lower keys depending on week. meta is shifting atm still btw depending on swarm intelligence
Mate, i am not pushing. This is casual play. I play with friends regardless of skill. I cba playing the meta game, itâs not fun to me. This isnât about me. But i am not arrogant enough to think the game is balanced. Are you? I can look at the data and see itâs not.
Thatâs what this is about. Pick and choose all the phrases you want. Is it balanced?
Balance and community perception arent the same. All tanks are performing well, youâre keep saying the fact that only 2 are taken is due to balance, not true.