Some of them are, yeah. One of the highest rated M+ players in my guild is a ret paladin. And he pugs some (not all) of his keys.
I agree on buffing frost dk.
It can never be balanced like you think it should be. This would be alignment of classes and shuts down variety. Content and affixes should give different classes the edge above others.
We all know that every tank, dps, healer can do till atleast +28 keys intime. Some classes have it easier then other all also depends on affixes etc. Is the game balanced nope not at all, frankly speaking wow classes can never be balanced tbh its impossible. The biggest problem with wow is THE COMMUNITY PERCEPTION OF CERTAIN CLASSES AND SPECS. if someone sees a 480 havoc dh and a 480 Frost dk signing up for their key who do u think they will take? Believe me not the frost Dk. Even he can be the better player who knows.
You are very angry at PvE balance for someone who, by their own words, isnât pushing and also is only playing with friends. What gives? Are you mad at the fact that different classes canât be perfectly equal and that some would be inevitably better than the others?
dh was too op anyway, thatâs why people should play what they like, not what they thought will be opâŠ
Balancing team really needs to be on point when you have a meta cult this toxic.
Well they did manage to completely destroy shadow priest at least for pvp dc about pve but i dont Imagine the spec being good there either.
Funny how they add tons of mobility for melee specs, but shadow priest have 0 mobility and has to hard cast everything.
Why you posting my personal information like that.
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you are looking at pvp. Blizzard dont care about pvp. They are looking at pve and mostly m+
SP are useless in rbg and solo shuffle. And thatâs the result of same things happening to dh and some other classes - big buff > cries > big nerfs which made situation worse than before the big buff. This causes many questions regarding competencies of class balancing team
NO. It was in 10.1.7.
And in 10.1.7 there were genuine reasons to play the meta. It was just WAY more OP than anything else. And the advantage it gave you were like 2 to 3 key levels.
This time its different. Its different because even though some classes overperform (like they always do) its only really relevant in super high keys and it only gives you a marginal advantage in lower keys. Not even 1 key level.
Just as Livia posted on the image I cant cyte because its a âlinkââŠ:
See the numbers to the right? They are a measure of how âbalancedâ things are. Green = GOOD. Red = BAD. Simple as that.
https://raider.io/mythic-plus-rankings/season-df-3/all/world/leaderboards
No further comments needed. Itâs terrible class balance.
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You canât be serious?
Top players will gravitate to the top specs even if they are only a little better than the others, this skews leaderboards massively.
I wish people would learn how to use data to present an argument rather than have a conclusion made up and then cherry pick something they think or hope backs it up.
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You sir have not looked at the graph from Livia.
This is what matters:
It uses a large sample size. Not just the 10 dudes that are the best in the world. Those guys would smash those keys even with Affli warlocks and you would all be calling out for nerfs⊠
Augmentation is more than a bit better
In this case the trend is so extreme and obvious that I donât even need to explain.
Keys 25 and up:
[Mythic+ Rankings (DF Season 3) (raider.io)](https://raider.io/mythic-plus-rankings/season-df-3/all/world/leaderboards#role=all:mode=unique:minMythicLevel=25:maxMythicLevel=99)
Thatâs not balanced. Donât care what you say.
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Again, youâre doing it fundamentally wrong.
Revisit your assumptions, its actually embarrassing that you double down.
Revisit your lack of counter arguments. Only embarrassing thing is that you talk down to others while not providing arguments yourself. Also, if you think that extreme imbalance at high level of play doesnât impact low level, you are wrong, because in 2023, people look at tier lists, and the overall player distribution is similar to the distribution at high level (though less extreme)
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Yeah, itâs only mages. And mages have insane utility, buff, two bl, blinking from stun, etc
No other ranged class is even close to that
Sorry that reading is hardâŠ