At this point what is stopping blizzard from using AI to balance classes? Seems weird almost like they want a meta each season.
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Well however stupid it sounds this game needs meta.
And u cant balance classes perfectly without then all being same , and as long as there is just slight advantage people gona us that.
But hea having 20-30% difference in some specs is stupdi
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for rbg roll Ret paladin easiest 2400 elit ever for pve Roll Monk since broken always any specc.
blizzard balance fixing specs none existence since after shadowlands.
other classes doesn’t exsist.
class dev team does not exsist.
people that play the specs past Ret paladin a any monk spec doesnt exsist.
blizzards balancing team and rework team is nill existent
Will always be a ret paladin and any monk speccs meta.
Because there cannot be balance. There are a thousand factors that you judge specs, be it damage, burst, proffiles, target scaling, stats, defensives, utility, mobility, and so on. AI does not help with any of that.
And to be frank, they said that they want a meta each season. They said that they want to keep the “good” specs the same across a season, while closing the delta each week or so, and then change the meta specs again the next season. This has been communicated before.
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Sure .ai never makes a mistake 
The fact that balance doesn’t mean equal dps output. If they managed that, then the classes with higher utility would become meta, therefore the problem wouldn’t have been solved.
Yea, Blizzard is well aware of there being a meta, and they don’t even try to achieve some mythical perfect balance, and frankly - they have good reasons for that. Listen to Ion speaking on class balance (video has timestamps):
Now, the extent of imbalance is another thing entirely, and worth talking about.
Ret needs some nerf on their defensive cds. BOP should be removed from ret or not being used on other members of group as retribution spec. They just refuse to die and their damage and survival CDs are too op.
Outlaw rogues and mages need nerf as well. Both are doing high dmg, survival abilities are very strong and they have heavy cc. They need to nerf 1 of these traits.
BM hunter is the easiest but hitting a lot compared to other two specs. Their damage needs nerf.
Subtlety rogue needs more dmg outside of their shadow dance. Overall dmg is too low compared to rest of the classes.
Disc priest is almost casting nothing interruptable as healing other than penance while other healing classes needs more casts that is interruptable. They should rotate some of the healing to castable abilities.
Locks are terrible. They might need some more defensives.
All these suggestions are for PvP mode.
No thanks, I don’t want any AI garbage in my games. I doubt it could hallucinate even half-decent balance anyway…
And here’s the thing.
People want new classes despite the fact there is no balance in PvE and pvp.
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And simultaneously people ask to delete specs or classes 
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Appreciate people’s input, yesterday I encountered a prot paladin on my mistweaver who got very upset when we failed a 16 nexus because no one interrupted the mobs and he was trying to get his 3400 mount. All I could say to him really was, keep trying, wait till season 2 prot pally is back and doing good..
I myself am an aging gamer, somehow scraped 3400.. wishing I could get that 1% mount but it’s outta sight for me and I can accept that. But when it’s literally because the spec sucks it’s a hard pill to swallow.
Anyways ty all!
I turned WM on to do some chest farming and got nuked in literally under 2 seconds by a hunter with their Chakram who hit me for 100k-60k-40k-20k and so on
I mean call me crazy but that seems a bit much right? To be able to burst THAT hard within a millisecond after landing with your mount? That’s Legion levels of idiocy, a spender from my Paladin does like 30k at BEST and my priest which was the receiver of that hunter burst is certainly not capable of bursting like that.
No. Go away.
It’s a PvP mode suggestion. If I remember correctly, you don’t like PvP.
There is sometimes an issue with overworld PvP, where your equipment’s PvP item level does not kick in before the damage is calculated, and therefore you get hit as if you were on Champion 1/6 PvE gear (if you didn’t upgrade it to 6/6) before it becomes ilvl298.
They already do that prob.
Btw, balancing is classes last problem. The problem is classes are similar and boring as f.
You would have a better luck asking for removal of party buffs
But u can get 1% on every spec tho, sure it might be harder to push on some, and sure it might be harder to get into groups , and it will all take more time, but its definitely doable to even hit 0.1 if u want to, on anything