Do you know what WoW really needs? Questlines that reward you with class-specific content and provide personal stories in which your character is main protagonist, and I mean your character and not Thrall, Malfurion, Tyrande or another creation of writers that will take all the spotlight reducing your char to the level of non-existent observer.
Do we have something like this already?
Well, we had it 8 years ago when every class had a fair amount of class specific content. Back in legion blizzard managed to fit in both stories for their characters like Illidan and Khadgar AND provide for player some agency and knowledge that their characters actually exist and do something story wise through content named âclass order hall campaignâ in which our chars were actively participating in fighting effort against legion.
We didnât get honor of personally activating sargerite key or making to the cinematic in any form but for example death knights raised 4 horsemen, shamans reunited elemental lords, monks were busy⌠checks notes brewing a beer. Hm. Well I guess not everyone born equal. Anyway, our chars DID SOMETHING that were somewhat important story wise, brought closure to loose ends from previous expansions, and were actually contributing something to the ongoing problem, but right now story wise we might as well not exists at all, which in turn in my opinion interferes with player engagement in overarching story.
The part I like about this is that Iâm not being called Champion! by every npc I engage with. DF has generally felt more under the radar in that sense, more like just an adventurer. Personally I prefer that.
That said, I do think you hit a nail on the head there with a certain lack of engagement. I hadnât considered it from that angle but I think youâre right that if there had been content that was class specific with interesting side quests themed around this expansionâs content, it would have tied some things together that were left floundering storywise. And yes, the character would potentially have felt more real and present. It could have made the Dragon Isles feel a bit more like part of the world instead of âpretty island backdrop nr whateverâ.
The last time I actually enjoyed quests in WoW was back in Legion. The class halls and their quest lines really felt epic.
A nice side-effect of class halls was that leveling up alts (of a different class) gave us new content to experience. The problem with quests is that they are not fun to repeat. Legionâs class hall quests solved this problem.
Since BfA, I level up alts just by spamming dungeons, because repeating quests is so boring. Iâd love to get good class specific content again to make leveling alts more interesting.
I agree Dralkharn. Doesnât happen often, but it just did.
I think class quests should be a major part of levelling. Itâs not even hard to work out a good way to do that given the sheer number of quests we have anyway.
But yeah, WoW tends to forget that weâre playing individual characters and that these characters have a perspective and opinion of what they want to do and can do.
The usual argument is âwell it takes too long to makeâ - wouldnât be a problem if 95% of the game wasnât outdated now, would it?
There used to be such quests. I remember back in TBC my paladin had a quest to go find someone and when you did find them they were dead so you learnt how to resurrect them. This is how you got that spell.
We also had the Paladin charger quests.
We shouldnât just get spells appear when you ding a new level, we should have a wee quest line to introduce those new spells and show us how to use them. Maybe they can be skippable on alts but first time on a class you should learn how to use your abilities.
Definitely want class quests back, made me want to play every class just to see them and get the mog if I liked it and the mount.
Was a bit weird making us the leader of some places though because⌠we didnât lead. We got the job done and left the management to the NPC that represented us if we werenât that class. So really, they were the leaders, because leaders donât go out murdering things and getting phat loots. Same for the WoD garrison. Iâm the commander? Only in the sense I send people on table missions, everyone else is sending -me- on missions!
I love having the titles though, donât get me wrong. Archmage, Archdruid you donât need to be THEE leader to be well recognised like that. I donât really miss my class hall but if they used them again Iâd be game.
Well you donât need to be called some heroic name, but i do liked tho when we were called class-specific titles in legion like netherlord, grandmaster, highlord, archdruid
I do think that there are complexities in terms of how would you incorporate class quests in a system where you can basically start leveling anywhere with no restrictions, like imagine you are playing shadowlands and quest says that you need to go/teleport to desolace
Somehow I feel even less in a rush to finish that particular class hall now though this made me laugh harder than it probably shouldâve. Thanks for making my evening
The amount of times Alexstrasza has said âour championâ or Wrathion âthe Championâ is still quite high though. Personally I donât mind, though it is noticeable Iâd say.
It was a great way to weed out those who had no business playing the class. Unfortunately it could also coincide with being mid-dungeon and having no one to ress the healer as only then did it become evident they hadnât done the quest, which meant an unnecessary walk and argument.
I love class specific content, but sadly I donât think weâll get much of it going forward. The simple reason is money/resources.
To design a a short quest chain (say 5 quests in total) for each class, Youâll need to design a total of 65 quests (13 classes). This all takes development time. Out of this 65, how many would an average player see? Iâd say 10-20 (no real data behind it, just my intuition that an average player plays 2-4 characters nowadays).
Meanwhile, if You make this quests available to everyone, all the players can enojoy all 65 regardless of how many alts they have.
With the recent layoffs in Blizzard, I donât think they have any money/resources to spare. Thats why I donât believe weâll get much class specific content in the coming years.
