Seems like so, kinda recurring theme by now. Dont know whats the point of doing class tuning if they dont tune the most broken specs then. Retri being one for 3 seasons row now. Kinda joke to see that they would even nerf anything else at this point when it only makes retri stronger and it already is the most broken spec in pvp there is for 3 seasons row so.
I’m not sure if there is any lights on but last one out turn off the lights. I’m personally getting fed up witnessing this retribution favouritism for 2 expansions row after its rework and 6 seasons where some spec is left so broken that anyone with half spellbook binded can go take elite with it with never given bop for anyone in team cause they just started playing the spec. And meanwhile see they nerf worse specs for no reason just for fun I guess.
Where is the warlock rework and why is warlock not gaining single buff pvp and why is some b tier spec like demo being nerfed twice on off season if you do nothing for retribution when its so obviously broken that anyone with 1600 for life is playing it for free elite. Do they not even understand how bad it is to have rating as “competitive” element in this game and then have this nonsensical balancing of buffing broken specs and nerfing some whatever non meta specs.
And now the hammer keeps swinging to mage for the 4-5th time just for this season alone cause to nobodys surprise its the biggest and only counter for retribution and war, which by chance just happen to have the most biggest player base. If you are doing tuning based on how many people play some class/spec in a rated game then I concider to think doing something else. Where is the retri and mm pvp nerfs? Do they even play their own game.
This is a joke right? People off cleave so insanely much with dawnlight. Ret is RANGED, has tons of utility, mobility e.g. and this is what blizz comes up with as a nerf? at this Point im 100% sure that non of y’all have a single braincell. Who cares about the Paladin class discord…still blizz helps some crying kids with their overtuned specc and other speccs like outlaw, sv hunt, fire mage, augvoker are being left in the dust.
Fistweavers are kinda doing it to themselves by whole eu rerolling to fotm it in 2s while it was broken, they even abused the bug it had so fw got to the map even more cause everyone complain of it who is not playing one. It was completely out of line that they dont oom or need to cast and do 80% of dps dmg and stick to some healer like glue with arms+fw comp example and they got two kicks to prevent any casts and big ms and so on. It’s completely out of line to have this type design at all if other healers have to rely on actual casting still, so ofc they just glue on the healer and faceroll against him and rotate every micro cc and kick on him. It’s way too easy and effective and Imo dumb that they made this type design to begin with.
When fw and bm were really good retri included which it has been for 6 seasons now, they even played tournament by standing top of coffin with bm, fw, retri vs bm, fw, retri mirror and each just doing dmg in melee and that was the whole gameplay, like… so imagine anyone would even go try play something that casts in that setting also it was just super boring to witness that type gameplay without any setups at all
I’m glad if they are nerfing fistweaver but we are still missing more nerfs on retri and mm. Mage they have been hammering with nerfs keenly each patch now.
you still dont get it. Its okay…i mean you play paladin …i dont expect anything decent coming from you (bcz delusion). Ret is way too overtuned. Outlaw has so many obvious clear flaws even tho WHAAZZ (basically the best pvp rog on this planet if you dont know) won with it. Gamescom isnt an indicator if a class/specc is too strong.
Yeah pal has alot of uptime and what does it have to do with holy paladins? they arent that oppressive as ret’s are (which every statistic shows OBVIOUSLY AGAIN).
I dont forget udk but udk is basically whatever. I dont see udk exceed in every content. There is literally no content where ret ISNT BAD.
Bro pls think before typing. Would help alot. You are 100% one of those class discord kids
The 50% to rushing wind kick is just unacceptable, i think thats going to kill MW off for the rest of the season.
So yeah fine it does too much damage, but now that effects my ancient teachings which is my top healing and will be halfed, ok so great ill go back to caster, now i cant get instant vivify because i need to kick…Who on earth thought this was a wise idea? why cant the nerf be to lighting or something else?
At least put a choice node on vivacious so we can toggle between the old way and the new kick way, honestly i swear these devs have never played a character in their lives.
I get the frustration, FW in comps like Arms+FW was oppressive. But saying the design itself is bad is too much. If that logic applied, Disc Priest would also be “bad design” since it heals through damage. Blizzard didn’t delete Disc, they just tuned it. Same should happen with FW ,lower the damage, keep the healing viable so the playstyle doesn’t die overnight.
They need to nerf vw disc too, its ridiculous if paired with some like rogue or dh. Or buff rsham to same level as all these fw and vw discs that it also make 500k dps with minimum effort. And disc does have bad design, it’s too simple, I would much rather play holy for the stun and spirit and guardian, a lot more interesting mechanics Imo. But they keep buffing discs so guess they want us play disc rather.
I agree Disc will become very strong , especially Voidweaver Disc, and tuning will be needed. Their designs are not flawed the same way FW design isn’t bad. Both are damage-to-heal specs, and both can work fine if tuned properly. The issue isn’t the concept, it’s Blizzard overtuning one healer while leaving others like Rsham behind. Better to bring everyone in line than to delete playstyles that people enjoy.
Buffing atonement healing and shield will be direct buff to vw dps discs too yes, and its already broken. Rsham become weaker, though depending comp I can run the discs down and not let them cast.
They need to nerf all those “proc/crit based” one shots… 0 skill play, pure luck.
Also I see they buffing priests, all this is fine however, resto druid is vulneable to purge more than ever, and they not even buffed a reactive resin a bit to counteract.
