great, ret paladin stays bottom,
ww monk now top tier,
mages from high mid to top.
hpal stays bottom.
etc etc
I guess we should be thankful to know now that they do realise ferals still exist. Slightly better than the current version of Regrowth: Grants you 100% health on your next visit to the graveyard.
Well-needed tunings, hopefully the specs are more balanced now, and not overperforming or underperforming.
Helllloo!?? You missed warriors for the 3rd time………
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No buff for shamans enhancement in aoe?
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@Blizzard
Can you stop with the mana juggeling on Holy paladins please, its so stupid.
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Mage buffs are good an all that BUT can you for the love of god give us another tierbonus option for frostmage for people who do not want to play glacial spike. I just use the old 4 set i will not play that s h i t that is glacial spike.
No! Stop It!
Why frost and fire has so much buffs? Frost was blasting without the buffs already, yet they got almost as much buffs as destro
Only frost and fire, they didn’t buff arcane much
Why nerf holy pala mana after like a week, they’re not even performing above other healers. Such an odd and unnecessary nerf.
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Because if you go and check logs for raid, at 95% percentile frost and fire were close to the bottom, as their single target is a joke. And I’m talking about heroic raid, where most of the people interested in tuning are.
Arcane buffs are fine, as most of their damage came from those 2 spells, and arcane works a bit different, meaning those 2 buffs are also buffing Touch of the Magi with some pretty decent damage.
But what about m+? Both fire and frost are doing really well and now those both specs will be S+++++
They should’ve buffed arcane more, especially aoe. And frost and fire, well… S+++++ 
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Ret main here. What problems? In my opinion, simple overall damage increases like we are getting with next week’s update are good. Maybe more single-target buffs to help us in raids would be better, though.
Blizz seems to love rogues this patch. Outlaw is still OPAF and isn’t getting touched yet again.
Yep, thank you for slowly killing the spec after 3 weeks of it ever being good. Back to caster meta.
In some highish keys, frost mage and demo locks are already doing competitive or higher damage than havoc and also bring a lot of utility. Not to mention that Havoc has dmg ramps every 40 seconds. Compare that with the BM Hunter which also blasts insane DPS with the least effort consistently.
It’s crazy to me how tuning is focused mostly on nerfing what makes a class fun to play and the talent that makes it fun.
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don’t worry, havoc is still s tier in m+
Dont think so, Im already beating DH on dmg meter and im getting big buffs and they nerfed hihihi
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Yeah was fun with dh for 3 weeks now its low dmg with low fun assa nerfs is nothing compared to the dh nerfs but assa is way more broken than dh. Now dh brings nothing worth in a grp not even good dmg. I mean zero nerfs for bm they are the most broken spec right now but u give a f blizz i am happy i didnt pre ordered wwi