Class Tuning Incoming – 23 August

really… “and fire mage are broken” arent these your words? bro stop the drugs

Duzurix is not me. We’re 2 separate individuals, you know.

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I’m not a shadow priest.

I’m a holy priest and I’ve mained holy since vanilla.

I’m telling you shadow priests damage isn’t that whack. If holy paladin wasn’t so strong or holy priest was stronger than we currently are, we could easily replace the shadow priest as far as utility goes and then you can bring a DPS that does more damage than a spriest + you don’t have to sync up PI with a shadow priests 2 min CDs because a holy priest can just use it as they want to without losing much DPS, which opens up for playing more comps as well. 3 min class? NP, holy priest can still give PI for the CDs. Shadow priest would have to use their PI or lose a lot of DPS when they pop their own CDs, holding it will result in a major DPS loss.

So why is your char specced shadow?

Because I’ve done world content before I logged out.

It’s not even a shadow priest thing. We bring pretty much the same utility as holy or disc but we’re not being taken because holy paladin is absurdly strong compared to us. If holy paladin wasn’t so strong or the healing specs of priest were stronger, shadow priests could see themselves being pushed out of the meta for classes that do more DPS. The utility is what keeps them relevant because holy/disc isn’t relevant.

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But wait, so blizzard then has only 3 alternatives for the current:

  1. Nerf their damage
  2. Buff holy/disc hard, so they become meta instead
  3. Nerf better healers than disc/holy.

I feel like option 1 makes more sense, because if priests are already too strong for their kit, then overbuffing their healing spec might result into a new meta, where everyone brings healing priests.
Option 3 would just make augmentation even more OP.
So Option 1 seems most reasonable

You mean nerf holy paladin. They’re just that oppressive. There’s really no spot for other healers at higher keys because they’re just that strong. Like, yeah, there’s a few other healers holding out but by large, if you don’t bring a holy paladin you’re throwing the key pretty much.

Blockquote lmao, you look the same! MB haha, BUT you still said u dont bring shadowpriests for damage and thats sooo false on every level

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Shadow priests bring damage but it’s not really that whack. It’s not enough on its own to justify taking them.

blizz just needs to buff other classes, not nerf the dominant ones to the ground. I started playing m+ at the very end of mage being broken and the formation of the godcomp. Do you know how many people did 29s and 30s during these 2 weeks who cant even complete a 28 now? MOST of them. So since you already changed it, u dont nerf everything to the ground, its unfair. U just buff other classes. Altho, in general they should make the same thing with m+ as theyve done with PvP. Should be in “m+ environment” same as its with “PvP environment” and adjust accordingly.

But if you buff everything you also devalue the accomplishments of the people playing early in the season. Because now the dungeons are nerfed hard, and all the classes are OP af…why would that approach be good for the game? Maybe someone was 0.1% range in the first 2 months. Now all of the sudden everyone is key inflated

Otherwise there will forever be big gaps between classes

There are people, who grinded rly high rio, when it was way harder, and now blizzard essentially makes them have to do it again, or their effort was wasted. But yeah, this only affects 0.1% rly anyway

There isnt a single player who wants to push for 0.1% title who takes first weeks of m+ seriously. It makes no sense. You know there will be massive tunings happening, and massive gear upgrades as season runs. Having that said, I still dont see any other option. Unless if you reset the whole ladder to 0. And then people will actually riot in the streets

They probably have too much PTSD from previous seasons to do that.

Just check how it went for holy priests in SL.

Season 1 we were pretty weak.

Season 2 we were okayish.

Then in season 3 we were absurdly strong.

Then season 4 we were pretty much godlike. I pushed to 26 as the highest at the end of SL as a holy priest. I would’ve probably been capped at like 22-23 as a resto shaman, resto druid or holy paladin.

hahahaha nice one

yup, and in general its insanely hard to balance, thats for sure. But nerfing mages and leaving SP and Evoker as is, thats insanity:P

But because its a nightmare and nearly impossible to balance everything… Its a no brainer that they need to separate:
1)Raiding
2)PvP
3)m+

https: //gifyu. com/image /SgHZZ xD

yet shadow has cast timers on void form and Dark Asension and even halo GG blizz

GG

melee biased game :stuck_out_tongue:

lol, you wish that your opinion matters. They are tuning down mages again because they dodged first set of nerfs, when spriest was the first to receive them.
Also, there’s TGP, the main reason tuning happens over again.