Yet another round of changes with no touch to Holy Priests …
So you made a buff to a spell we do not use to do damage but to just apply a buff to do damage … some impeccable thinking … I feel like you do not have a dedicated person doing playtests for each class anymore … this would not otherwise happen.
If you want hunters to do more AoE damage, maybe EXTEND how long cleave buff stays on pets by 100-200% so we can actually press damage buttons instead of constantly having to press multishot every few GCDs.
I think I’ll take a break if this goes through.
Insane burst in pvp is because of a bug and not because shaman dmg is insane
Ele aoe needed a nerf and everyone can agree but why go on and nerf ST with it? Why also nerf the stat that you made us farm, fix and re-enchant everything just to do it again the week after?
I’d really like to know why two of the pure DPS classes are being beat down (Warlocks & Hunters) with changes that have not made much sense over all when there are bugs that have plagued both BM and MM (regardless of Hero Talents) and none of them really have been fixed. Instead the claim of overperforming…yeah, not so much. The changes to Dark Ranger forced it to primarily be used with AoE talents and is garbage - the devs screwed it, then finally give Pack Leader a place only to nerf it. Hire someone who actually knows the class to develop it, rather than someone who doesn’t actually play the class and the various specs. It’s sad that a pure dps class sees a buff, and suddenly, someone decided “We gotta rework this because X,Y, Z.” rather than actually discuss it with players who constantly play the class or someone with a passion for the class.
I will say, whoever developed the Dark Ranger’s Banshee wail when activation of True Shot? LOVE it, but the forcing it into an AoE spec for MM…terrible choice and baking it into kill shot? Whoever designed that, had no clue how the spec played before.
Warriors need better utilities for raid and mythic+
What is this joke blizzard as a ww player 0 love given to them hard to pug dps is low tier i play it a bit now so i play ele sham now and i like the class also ench both are over powered indeed you give a less nerf to ench but massive nerf elemental hope its worth it for the blizzard team to see shamans surfering. Tune other classes and less nerf to shaman why always nerfs shamans 2 times in a week. Mage and dk was over 8 weeks huge after 9 weeks you decided to nerf shaman instant nerf. Greetings.
I’m just done. Blizz balance team is so freaking clueless. Rework ele, change the stats and then nerf to the ground and make changes to kill the stat change AGAIN. Sin is outperforming but hey nerf ele and change their stats again by killing overload damage. Have you 200 iq guys tried to play ELE??? Outside of this Asc. CD(3 MINUTES), your damage is not better than PROT PALA. I’m not playing this wonderful game being handled by clueless clowns.
Windwalker is already very declined for M+.
Please buff AoE
Not really. ELe damage is 0 w/o asc and its freaking 3 min CD. Check assas rog and then talk. Nerf is needed yeah but this is putting ele to graveyard and forcing to STAT CHANGE AGAINNNNN IN SAME SEASON.
As you can see from my reply history, I never really engage in the forums, but after years, I couldn’t hold back…
I’m sorry, but is it really an exaggeration to say the current class balance team might be… incompetent?
The constant back-and-forth with massive swings in numbers across SO MANY CLASSES is exhausting!
(And no, this isn’t just about the recent Elemental changes.)
Am I really being unreasonable for reacting this way? Am I getting too emotional?
It’s starting to feel like League of Legends balancing—only much much worse and completely out of place in a MMORPG.
Geesus…
I def. + this. They cant be more clueless about their own game. This will be 2nd stat change forced by high IQ balance team in SAME SEASON.
I’m really sorry for starting with unhelpful hyperbole but were these changes made by someone who actually plays BM?
On to the (hopefully) useful feedback - My main content is M+, currently progressing the +11’s and I really do not see how this will boost AoE. Pack Leader is finally in a usable state in M+ since the patch launched and it seems like you’re determined to change that again.
Multi-Shot is not a realistic lever for you to try and tune AoE damage around. MS is just a maintenance spell, not an actual source of damage. You could boost MS with another 1000% damage and I would not be surprised if we still wanted to cast it as little as possible just to keep beast/kill-cleave active, which is the strength of PL in M+. Kill command extending beast/kill cleave so we cast MS as little as possible.
Maybe the theorycrafters who sim all these changes before they go live will come up with a different answer but I don’t see Explosive Venom as ever being an attractive talent to take with Pack Leader.
Will continue thinking about the impact of these changes and maybe edit this later but thusfar in TWW (since prepatch), with M+ being my primary source of content, I have been rather disappointed in the state and balance decisions made for BM.
Thank you for considering class changes.
But this is NOT what we need. What we need is for you to fix the affixes in M+ !!!
Get rid of the gile, and get rid of the 15s death affix. The data we have from 3rd party websites shows how participation rates tank by 95% on key levels 12 and above.
Its FAR from being a nice “gausian” like in other seasons.
can we play PVP yet?
just wondering as people are still getting kicked out of matchs
Way too many procs on top of the procs. It’s mathematically impossible to fine tune classes in their current iterations.
Maybe we all should to consider more simpler design?
We as community to approve and devs to make.
Where are havoc DH buffs? The class is useless and underperforming lol. It’s not even in A tier it’s somewhere in B-C tier. hello?
Did they forget to mention Feral again in the patch notes? Boomkin is already running +15/16 keys and will still get some buffs.
Clueless devs
That was a hard elemental shaman nerf.
Also where is the tuning adjustment for retribution paladin after the butchering of the talents to lower our dps? maybe give back our 4% haste at least?