Hello everyone.
We appreciate your discussions on the class tuning changes. We’ve made the following changes to Beast Mastery Hunter and Holy Paladin based on your feedback. The original post has been updated to reflect these changes.
Hunter
Beast Mastery
All damage dealt by you and your pet’s abilities increased by 8%.
Developer’s note: We’ve corrected an issue with the Beast Mastery changes which previously excluded the baseline aura buff for both the Hunter and their pets. We’ve also adjusted the values for the baseline buff up, to better reach our target goals. Our intended tuning change for Beast Mastery is intended to be relatively neutral for single target, while increasing AoE performance, which was behind where it should be.
Monk
Mistweaver
Mastery of Harmony: Fixed an issue that caused Coalescence to not increase the healing taken during Aspect of Harmony.
Master of Harmony: Coalescence now causes Aspect of Harmony to increase damage and healing taken by 20% (was 30%).
Developer’s note: After fixing a bug that prevented Coalescence healing taken effect from functioning, we found that we needed to reduce its effectiveness a bit.
Paladin
Holy
All healing reduced by 5%. Does not affect PvP combat.
Fixed a bug causing Dawnlight to not have its healing reduced beyond 5 targets.
Dawnlight healing increased by 30%.
Developer’s note: After continued feedback and further review on performance, we’ve decided to revert the planned Holy Paladin nerf for October 8 weekly reset. Additionally, we’re correcting the bug with Dawnlight and compensating with a buff to its healing to keep its value in raid close to its current performance, while giving it increased performance in 5 party group content.
Still seems to be a significant nerf to BM single target, which wasn’t needed. If you mean what you say by wanting BM single target to remain relatively neutral with these changes then you need to amp the numbers slightly.
I get that Affliction is really strong in PvP but why all the harsh nerfs? They suffer from melee fixation than anything else. Least leave their insane amount of damage be.
Ty for changes and listening to the feedback. I would the changes to BM hunter to not be still as big nerf as it is. I think you are going a good way, but you are not 100% there yet. If BM is supposed to be competitive in AOE, they would need a way bigger buff. I hope you guys understand that and will look more into making BM a better spec.
You guys think that if you buff 80 by 20% it becomes 100 but NEWS FLASH it doesnt ,it actually equals 96, to make it 100 you have to buff it by 25%, you should have learned this in elementary.
if bm is 37% behind mm in aoe to make them equal you have to buff it by around 59% if you buff it by 37% you fell short by a lot
Your hunter dev has skipped to class where he learned that 5% of a small number results to a smaller number than 5% of a larger number.
I wont even go to depth with how lame it is to nerf bm just because of PI instead of just deleting that abomination of an ability from the game already.
You claim that
5% is not relatively neutral, if you did that to arcane the pitchforks would be out INSTANTLY
MM still cant lust without a pet
Hunters still have practicaly no raidbuff
What a joke that you gave us an AOE stop the same time you made adds recast if they get stunned and even with that we are still almost useless with the orb affix
I will NEVER forgive or forget that you did not even bother to keep your promise about buffing tier sets to apropriate levels after we voted for SV T1 in S4 and we had to play with like 50 ilvl lower T3 items for THE WHOLE SEASON.
We demand reperations. We demand respect, we pay the same sub as mages, we should be as viable.
This BM change was almost exactly what we were begging for, when it said you were giving us 8% more damage twice. Now that this “typo” has been updated, we’re left with a 5% nerf to single target which I cannot believe is intended to be “relatively neutral”, not to mention our AoE (while a step in the right direction) is still in the exact same place as before. I’m not the first to mention this of course, but I feel like there has been another mistake and the only way we fixed the last one was to post our feedback.
BM needs that other ~8% aura buff back, minimum.
why do you guys destroy every healer class except rshaman who is already overpowerd? 50+% of all healers play shaman and now with every other class being nerfed 90% of ppl will change to shaman. very bad changes
But we are getting nerfed, our ES dr is getting nerfed and our damage getting nerfed with acid rain nerf its not our hps that keeps us in meta for m+, its the toolkit that fits the dungeon profile for this season. Give rdudu some more buffs and they will take the spot in the top again, im sure it will happen soon enough
Have you got any suggestions to how they can change rsham utility and not just make the top be dominated by restodruid instead? Its not hps, if that was it then evoker would be the choice for keys (they ofc also suffer cause aug is meta in high keys). Remove resto shaman and resto druid will take the spot. And dps shaman will take a dps spot most likely.
How about you also think about MM hunters and fix the glitch, that makes trick shot consume tier bonus buff thus reducing the effectiveness of an already weak tier bonus by 50%? You seriously postponed fixing this glitch for the next patch?
Also I would remind dear BM fellows that while currently MM may do more AoE damage, its single target is much weaker than that of BM and most other specs. If you’re going to buff AoE of Beastmaster further, then it would be fair to buff Single Target Damage of MM hunter too.
Just because Markmanship is underrepresented (because prolly half of current MM hunters are min maxers that will switch to BM as soon as it’s buffed), doesn’t mean you can neglect us so badly.
Fix the glitch of our garbage tier set bonus and for the love of God make Trick Shot trigger at 2 targets or replace whoever is in charge of hunter’s fixes. Totally clueless dude who doesn’t even play a hunter, I bet.
And give all hunters some group utility finally please!
You gave shamans an amazing mastery + windfury buff, while we have that mockery of utility of hunter’s mark, it’s not utility, it is trash! Hunter’s mark buff is very mediocre in Raids and complete trash in m+.
its not our hps that keeps us in meta for m+, its the toolkit that fits the dungeon profile for this season. Give rdudu some more buffs and they will take the spot in the top again, im sure it will happen soon enough 