Alright, if they donât also push a pvp patch to balance out and nerf BM and Fire I will just quit this Season as I quit Season 1.
These are the 2 classes I struggle so badly against in arena, Iâ ma healer and struggle to heal bm damage more than any other class. As well as fire constant burst⊠I think if these changes are included in pvp I think Iâm done too. I feel so beaten down after season 1, Iâll never get my head around why blizzard always buff the most op classes in pvp, I just donât understand it.
I am only missing a few games to the elite set and I am not sure if I will even go for it.
The elite set this season looks like normal raid gear and the arena mount is ugly and will be purchasable next xpac anyway.
The meta is aweful and the rewards are horrible.
I should just quit until they fire the current pvp team.
gg buff bm and mage why dont they buff warrior,ww,dh,rdruid while they at it xD
Thank god bm will be viable again 
You must be new here
I wonder why they increase or decrease high number like this, In the past tuning where around 5% maybe 10% if it was really really bad.
Itâs gonna be horrible in pvp :s
Because they are not doing these things with PvP in mind at all. What you have to understand is, that they have a team, that has his goals and tasks set at making classes relatively equally desirable, because of power, for PvE.
They donât think about PvP.
A class might 1 shot in PvP and everyone in the PvP community be in a riot because of this, but be poor overall in PvE and raid fights, they will buff it. People will scratch their heads how this is possible, but it is, because the goal for the team that does the main development is not PvP at all.
Now, in a normal company, there would be a PvP team as well, that, taking the changes from the PvE team, does their own balancing pass, without affecting PvE, and applying different ratios for PvP so things are balanced.
And in a normal company, these two (or more) teams should even communicate between each other to clear things out.
We, obviously, donât have this, hence the absurd things that happen.
If there is no PvP balancing patch things will be ludicrous.
Good adjusment. We wont be up to DH/arms/ret/WW/feral level yet but its a step in right direction.
Donât think Iâll renew sub if this goes live, cba anymore
Yeah, you will not be at that level, but you will be at 5 levels above. This is going to be a whole new level of brokenness.
Gj Blizz, congratulations.
Imagine struggling so much as BM (!) in PvP that you feel like 15% (!!) dmg buff to many abilities isnât total overkill 
Same level of imagining required for warriors thinking they and condemn are fine.
^ This is bait!
OnT: They must be oblivious to what actually happens in pvp. TragicâŠ
If they buff Condemn by 15% without reverting it in PvP, you wonât see me « good, now we are on the same level as others ».
Thatâs the difference between you and me, you leave your integrity behind to show how glad you are to be buffed.
Btw do you realise all your condemn shots are missed shots since Iâm Kyrian ?
Yeah that would make venthyr even more over the top than they already are.
Except you refuse to acknowledge that your class and covenant is broken, both kyrian and venthyr.
Yes kyrian warriors are so bad!!! /sarcasm
Can you show me a single comment where I expressed that warrior wasnât S tier ? Where I complained about warrior ?
You wonât find any
Nah, probably still garbage, need a third pet and some extra kill shot procs I think
Here is what i gathered in about 1 minute:
âHis triple 18k Condemn story didnât happenâ
âIdk tbh, other MS classes canât setup such big burst like assa.â
âYou can totally 1v1 even as arms, but you will immediately see when you are fighting a good player, at equal skill arms isnât good at allâ
âYou went from hunter to war seeking easy games ?â
Didnt care to gather more.