Classic Talent Trees to Battle for Azeroth

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Hi guys. Would you like to see the old classic talent trees brought to Battle for Azeroth? I would like to create hybrid talents for my heroes, just like in the good old days of World of Warcraft.

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They struggle enough with balance… let’s not rock the boat.

They wern’t offering as much choice back then as some think… there was always the best, most optimal cookie cutter builds

Lets keep Classic and current wow separate.

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Yes! I would be ready to sacrifice a lot to get them back. As non raider i have never been min maxer and i just loved all the different specs you could make with old talent trees (especially with druid).

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I hated the old trees and was never sorry to the see them go. The majority of the player base followed a cookie cutter of what was best. These days we’d probably just sim the entire tree and do what that told us. It wasn’t flexible and changing one point meant re-doing the entire tree to incorporate the one tiny change you wanted to make.

The new system is far better and we can actually swap talents for different fights.

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Yes .10chars

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Yes!!
With one caveat, work in the current active and passive talents into the tree along with the +1% Hit etc… Ok not hit as that went a long time ago :slightly_smiling_face:

And a level squish so the talents come at every level.

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On this note: i’m pretty sure we will see some changes to the “talent tree” in the next expansion, Ion Hazzikostas already said that the actual talents are not satisfying, so be ready to see some changes on the talent tree and on the leveling system in the next expansion :slight_smile:

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I don’t.

I’d rather have talents that matter than dozens of useless ones, although you had more freedom back then.

What i would love to see though would be to have different options for the same spell, like “deal 33% of the damages to nearby targets”, “slows the target by 25%” or " reduce the remaining cd of spell X by 33%".

It would bring more customisation imo than 100 talents “+1% something” and only 10 interesting ones.

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No thanks. All the those passives in the tree in classic ? Now baked into the class, now only major talent remains still.

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Personally I wouldn’t like the old tress back again. Depending on what class the cost of respeccing got quite prohibitive quite quickly, especially for tanks and healers that wanted to quest in DPS specs. Or as Puny alludes to the amuont of times you got to the last couple of tiers and then misclicked a point was quite frustrating.

II am not enamoured of the new talent tree but at least I can change on the fly depending on what I am doing and I don’t really need to alt-tab out to EJ every time I need to change specs.

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No it wasn’t as good as people think. You literally got 2-3 skills from it. And a load of +5% to a certain skill. Hybrids massively sucked, and were miles befind a proper dps.

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I totally would love having the old talent system back. Some people claiming there were “cookie cutter builds” with the old talent trees got me wondering. are “cookie cutter builds” still a thing?

Edit: It is still a thing. I forgot to add that in.

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spoiler alert:

in a game where everyone want’s to play without disadvantages everything will be cookie cutter that allows a decision.
Blizzard tried hard over the last 6+ years to remove stuff that allowed players to make their own decisions and where are we left ?

sorry but I’d take talent trees any day over the garbage design we have now even if you call it ‘’ illusion of choice’’ because I’d rather have that than no choice at all.

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It’s also been years since they added a new talent row. Every 15 levels is not enough :frowning:

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Kinda agree with some views above.
Even now people mostly use 1 specific build for their characters(ok. Fine. Maybe they change 1-2 tiers for m+ affixes or specific raid bosses).
So adding new talent trees pretty much changes nothing?

10 talents* or 50 talents?* Whats the difference anyway if you are going to use a specific combination(aka cookie cutter builds) most of the time and will barely change anything?

*- the numbers may not be right. Simply used them as an example. I didn’t bother to count the precise numbers :rofl:

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As the current Mythic raid comps, the Threes ladder, and the MDI demonstrate, balance is a fairy-tale.

I want genuine character building back, not MOBAesque switches.

I would also like to get my classes back, and not be shoehorned into specs.

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Just wondering what kind of choice we have now with tic tac toe talents?:face_with_monocle:

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Choice is illusion.

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Yes like the Matrix :stuck_out_tongue:.

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In pvp , specially in Arena you change your build depending on what you face quit a lot m.