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Thanks for the replies all
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Oh there is a better system.
Communities/guilds/friends or pushing your key (both can also work nicely in synch with others).
Even if we ignore rio score/class spec/ilevel competion. There is still 50 dps competing for 1 dps spot. No matter how "generous"key holder you could find, they simply canât take ALL dps with them.
So if you donât want offer your own key(and thus crate 2 more dps spots if you sign up as a dps) and become part of the solution. Then be part of the problem instead and continue to fight for that 1 dps spotâŚwith 49 other dpsers.
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Bro, clearly youâre applying to full groups.
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I am in NoP(No Pressure) community and I sometimes get overpinged with LFG posts that I have to silence them so I can raid in peace so they are far from âdeadâ.
As for the link. On a work PC atm but the discord link can be easily found on google. Just write WoW No pressure or something.
Ofc. Bear in mind that communities are not âfree m+ boosting servicesâ. I had both nice +10s and +11 +2 chested and some runs⌠which were good for vault chore I guess.
Donât expect that only âMDI championsâ play there but people from all kinds of skill sets and levels.
As i said in the post.
I just want to play 
Iâve never left a M+ as the first person to leave and i wonât ever do that.
Same thing as everyone else playing the game at the moment.
Most of them dps.
Some of them tanks.
Also some healers in there.
People are always saying the same things:
- Get higher gear/rio to be more competitive.
- Get into a guild/community/make friends.
- Make your own keys.
- Learn to tank/heal for way faster queues.
But at the end of the day no one can help you but yourself.
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I tried to brew, but i fall on my face.
It does not feel good for +10
There is a better system for this its called make your own key group or find some friends, here i am playing prot paladin and i still have 0 active friends to play keys with feeling depressed to, instead i get random dps pointing fingers at me for failing at my interrupts and being very toxic.
The one thing I would tell you with 100% confidence is to not be afraid to fail. Sure at the start doing 10s might not be a good idea, but doing some lower dungeons will be feasible.
But I would 100% recommend taking it up instead of just staying afk and waiting for an invite. You will be amazed at how much easier joining a group is, especially considering if you manage to meet new people and start filling your friendlist with players that you can group up with.
The last time i had an attatchment to another person in WoW was legion, but that one is not there any more
No friends, no Guilds, No person i talk to.
WoW is very solo for me, not even found a person to connect with throughout 2019 classic, TBC, wotlk, Cata (even tho i am guild raiding) or the SoD playthrough
And yet here you are playing an MMO game trying to play a game with 4 other players, does not sound like solo game to me, unless you want to just do delves.
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Click this link and there is 5 very active discords you can join for m+
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It is clearly not a âsystemâ problem, but a human problem.
You are not rejected by the âsystemâ, but by human players.
The only solution to your problem is to introduce a random LFG to M+. If not, this will always remain the same.
No mechanic system can solve human problem.
start your own key .make friends , join communities . it isnt any different then real life . you make connections at work place ,in communities that you live in .
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as a dps player just do your own key until you hit about 2.8k, its much faster than trying to get into group
Unfortunately this is the state of M+ unless the following applies
1 : You are playing a Meta Class.
2 : You have Ilvl 6000
3 : You have over 20k IO rating
4 : You have more than 2000 +10,s in time.
People are so picky about who they invite to their 10,s because of the Crest Reductions and Key Depletion (No one wants to risk going back to a 9 because that means no Mythic track loot in vault and also a 9 can get depleted then all of a sudden you are at an 8 and now have to time 2 keys or +2 it which in pug world can be hard.)
Blizzard have made some nice changes to the crest system next reset which will help a little but some people will still throw a fit about losing 4 crests on a failed key + depletion , So less hope they solve the depletiuon problem (IE⌠key has 3 charges or something, Depleted Key *âUse a charge to keep key at same level or accept depletionâ
Blizzard have made it too punishing to fail keys simple as, So that has encouraged behavioural toxicity between players and who they choose to take.
Also DPS are dime a dozen, So if you want an easy time getting into keys, Choose to tank or heal players are less choosy about those roles.
Also as stated create your own community / circle of people who you can run regular with branch out and make connections by running your own key after all you are playing an MMORPG.
Remember you choose to pug keys its no different to playing a lottery system , Some you win and some you lose
Simple solution: Stop pugging and try to make friends, i.e. join a communiuy like L or NP, or a guild. Or offer your own key up and form your own groups.
But, since that is always some sort of mentally insurmountable brick wall for the vast majority of these threads, I do have an alternative solution to present: Just keep complaining while you´re forced to suck it up and continue to suffer, despite knowing exactly how to easily solve your problem.
If I want to run m+ for whatever unlikely reason, it´s literally as simple as typing â/g does anyone want to run a key or 2?â
If people instead want to sit on their thumb and rotate in Donogal while playing the M+ grouping simulator, just to potentially wind up in one of the (apparently countless) fail-/leavegroups, that´s ofc entirely their right. But then the reasons for their complaints are entirely self inflicted, and the only reasonable advice anyone can give in that situation is âThen stop hitting yourselfâ 
The choice is yours
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List a +10 key yourself, and see the result. Youâre just one out of 12 to 60 applicants (depending on the dungeon). And yes, plenty of them have a better score, better ilvl, or play a more favorable spec.
Thereâs your problemâŚyouâre only level 18 
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There must be a better way!!!
Gets told a better way
But I dun wanna!!!
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