FYI gents,
Lets try to get more visibility to this, maybe if we do a bit more noise, we can actually have some feedback.
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I’ll just, again, repeat myself with stuff from a previous response - and it very much matches exactly what the thread says - except for the abysmal state of 3v3 arena in general, not just for hunters, and the PvP talent Double Tap suggestion for reasons mentioned below, and that it’s mainly from the MM perspective, the US post tackles hunter as dog in general.
If we ignore the fact that MM - or hunters in general for that matter - underperform in all aspects of all content, let’s take a look at what DT loss has given us:
- DT loss in PvE eliminates short-CD burst. In Raid, that means nothing on dummy fights, it means a lot on aoe add fights. Same goes for m+. With that said, it’s not detrimental, since the spec is still viable, however it’s not bringing anything useful into the raid nor m+ almost any other spec couldn’t bring, rendering MM hunter objectionable at best.
- DT loss in PvP absolutely ruins the whole playstyle that has been encouraged for the past 8 and a half seasons since revamp. With the BfA revamp, MM’s become a setup spec. It doesn’t secure kills with consistent pressure, because there’s no such thing as “consistent pressure” from MM. Funnily enough, the only “setup” was Double Tap specifically. Now, what happens if you take “setup” away from a “setup spec” that “can’t kill outside of setup”? It can’t secure a kill, who would have thought. In the past at least 6 seasons - talking from personal experience - in endgame PvP, people would literally jump on you whenever you pressed Double Tap and would ignore you for the entirety of the game until you pressed Double Tap again, because they all know MM can’t kill sh*t outside of 1 single button.
To finish the rant, allow me to quote myself.
I’m not saying removing Double Tap is bad, sure not. What I’m saying is bad is gimping an already gimped spec, that has been securing kills ONLY because of one specific spell (for the past 9 FREAKING SEASONS), and not compensating for the loss. At this point, What’s definitely gonna follow is something like a 30 % flat PvP aura AiS/RF buff, unless they let MM rot until at least 11.0, which I expect they will, to be honest.
I was saying it all the time ever since the change was announced - revamp the hell out of it if that’s what DT removal means for yall Blizz guys, or if you don’t have a plan - which I expected - make DT a PvP talent until you actually have a clue what you’re trying to do, otherwise you’re gonna butcher the spec entirely, and mind you - mid-season, of all things. I intended to push Glad for the first time this season after getting Elite in 2s in 4 seasons as MM previously (with around 12000 arenas played) and now in SS too, but I just didn’t, knowing how dead 3s currently are and that my spec will be virtually unplayable in said content a month or two from whenever that was announced. (EU 3s have around 70k players with games, 110ish in 2s, 190ish in SS - data from check-pvp)
But hey, at least we have 4 crit modifiers on killshot, surely that’s healthy PvP design. Pity we don’t get to the Killshot threshold anymore to begin with.
Oh, and there’s the entire thing about Blizz fooking up the talent tree in the process as well, especially for PvP. Imagine having a 2-point talent that gives you 10 % AiS/RF locked behind picking a 10 % all damage buff petless talent in a form of content that encourages - and requires - using a pet. Then there’s the fact that we need to pick SST or steady focus (both equally dog in PvP) to get LnL, because picking the already PvP-useless CDR talent doesn’t even allow us now to pick Lock and Load. Yeah. And then there’s those 4 Killshot talents. At least swap tactical reload and hunter’s knowledge, if you wanna do us dirty like that, Blizzard.
The link below will lead you to a “tier list” that compiles Mythic raid data (1 week, 1 day), M+ data (1 week, 1 day) and PvP data (Solo shuffle, 2s, 3s).
https:// snipboard. io/9FYxNt. jpg
(Just delete spaces from within the link, there’s 2 after the stops and 1 after doubleslash)
There’s a reason why MM is top 32 percentile within 90 percentile performance in Raid, top 52 percentile within 90 percentile performance in m+, and 1.51 % of all 2.4+ players in Solo Shuffle, 0.48 % in 3v3 and 0 % in 2v2. (Can we also talk about the fact that 95 % of all 2.4+ titles this season come from solo shuffle and there’s 4800± players there, with 27 in 2s and 180 in 3s? Enjoy farming your glad mounts boys :^) )
It should be impossible to them to ignore, which is the most frustrating thing.
Scanning through forums and videos last night and came across a few titled ‘survival is amazing!’ And ‘mm still pumps’…
And I can’t help but feel it’s these click bait videos that blizz pays more attention to that player feedback.
Irrespective of the context they are presented in… the survival one for example, was 5x 1v1 situations in arena…
And mm still pumps was a non rated bg in which it was just a free casting session…
All of which is completely taken out of context…
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