Community in PvE and dungeons is horrible in the year 2025

I dont find it social either. Its just forced grouping. Most interactions are a greeting, thanks and goodbye in those situations.

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Yeah, there has been a culture shift. In olden days you needed a guild to do the hardest content in a dedicated way.
Today you need a Guild (or more likely a Community) to do content in a relaxed casual way.

The PuG scene is Hardcore (to a toxic level) and won’t tolerate mediocrity in build, gear, experience or anything.
You used to have to apply to a guild and prove you were capable of playing the game at the highest levels. Today you need to apply to LFG and prove the same only without interviews or any other way to prove it so you’re judged on simple metrics (RIO, iLvl or whatever else is readily available).

Then they wonder why there isn’t enough tanks and healers so queue times grow to hours.
Find a community like Scared of Dungeon or Dungeon Dojo or similar. Main problem here is getting into them as they can only have 1000 characters so they fill up fast.

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I would disagree . Dota 2 has the most toxic community .league of legends and world of tank community is baby in front of it

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Never played Dota2 :astonished:

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Then you should .you will learn all cursing words in all languages in no time :joy_cat:

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Never played it , but is it really bad ? i might have to take a look :smiley:

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As far as F2P games go WoT is pretty enjoyable where P2W isn’t really an issue… credit bought tanks can still wreck gold/store bought tanks.

Premium Tanks have the benefit of more xp and credits earned. But they’re ridiculously expensive… prices range from €5 for low tier junk to €100+ for Tier 8+

And there’s a massive selection of Tanks with numerous nations.

It’s a tad bit grindy though, and progressing through tech trees to get better equipment you have to either endure it till you unlock them… or use free XP that you’ve accumulated with other tanks – playing Tier 8-10 tanks helps with that.

WoT’s my go to PvP game if I ain’t playing WoW.

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Dota 2 .definitely lol .

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Thank you i might look it up as a side game from WoW.

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oh i see now you are asking about world of tank .it is based on ww2 tanks .its a fun game .takes a bit of time to learn but once you do its good .

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will def look it up now :grinning:

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Good example I must say, you are correct with your observations the game is in a sorry state. It appears the anti social brigade is now the majority of WoW players so you’ll struggle for them to admit that socially inept and don’t like making new friends, they’ll give you a thousand other excuses of how everything is fine and how it should be.

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If you want those things try FF14.

There were as many post about that topic in 2006 than today. Look at the archives if you don’t believe me.

Nothing changed. But nostalgia is powerful in human beings.

you deserve what you tolerate.

game has turning in a go go rush rush since long time, to late to go back into nicer days where ppl didnt gave a F if a mid run of a dung a 1 min pause was done.

Nobody interacts in random groups because the people in those groups are not fun to interact with.

People who cannot form coherent sentences, like half the people in this thread.

People who, with a straight face, will expect everyone to be ok with them taking a break in the middle of a 15minute dungeon, because they couldnt do a tiny bit of time management in order to not inconvenience 4 other people.

People who expect help from others, but will never stick around long enough to help other new players. That’s something everyone always forgets. Almost every player who has been playing this game for a long time has been helpful to new players in the past. The issue is that after a while you just realize that these are all randoms that you will never see again who will quit the game in a few weeks. Why would players want to keep doing that?

Tell me why it’s worth the time interacting with any of you when you’re so unappealing, I will never see you again and I can actually get good interactions when talking with guildies and people in discord.

I know the feel.
Best you can do is adapt to how the game is today, you’re not gonna spamming dungeons with those players forever, only in the beginning when you’re gearing your toon.
It sucks the way it as, but as healer or dps, just run with the tank without touching anything until the tank has rounded up his pull, then you can aoe them down, it is very fast that way, that’s why the rush it.
As tank you should be able to decide the pace and if you ever get kicked just know that they were assh*les, not every group is like that.

Sadly you are missing the point by km, but i will give you a clue that has to do with the length of your post;

Sorry mate but i dont have time to read it, therefore i will ignore it.

I had plenty social aspects in wow pvp when arena were still relevant and viable rating wise, everyone I played 2v2 with brought also social aspect for me and I spoke with people constantly and maintained network of friends. Shuffle ruined it all for me and made pvp into solo mode with que button to go play with hostile pugs and arena lost its value rating wise cause game rated system is participation based and arena lacks that now.

All is still viable in pve and anyone can build network of likeminded people they would wish to play m+ with or join a community that one thinks would be for own interest and seek friends there and people to play with. I think peoples advice to “find community, make friends, play with guild” etc are right, atleast pve still have that option so its just up to them how they wish to play, with friends or alone.

Do you start talking with strangers when you get on a bus?

20 years ago the idea of talking to so many people from different countries still had some novelty, but nowadays it’s business as usual.

If there’s something to say, I’ll say it. If someone has trouble I can say something to point the right way. If something funny happens I might tell a joke. If I start a raid PuG then I’m willing to give instructions on encounters.

But in a normal/heroic/timewalking dungeon when everything is smooth sailing then we’re just a bunch of strangers on the same bus, and I can take 6-7 of these “buses” in one evening.