I feel like this should be a permanent mode, BUT replace the PvP achievements and reward with just experience (for under 120) and maybe some blue gear equivalent to the turds you get from normal dungeons.
There’s several reasons why:
It’s a great place for people new to PvP/Battlegrounds to learn the mechanics and get a feel for the maps before ruining their teammates experience by going in totally blind
People who absolutely hate levelling via dungeons/grinding can just queue for comp stomps if they wish. There’s nothing wrong with having more options.
Some players simply lack confidence, and it holds them back from PvPing. Who knows, this might help.
I could totally see myself queueing for them while grinding alts. It’d be a hell of a lot more fun than running the same dungeons time and time again.
Like I said though, remove all PvP achievements/rewards. You’re fighting AI, not players (Player vs Player), so it should be restricted to PvE.
but what stops them from just afking somewhere? its already an issue when people theoretically know what to do in compstomp.
yeah you could report them afk but i cant constantly check who is really afk and leeching off others and who isnt.
i could agree with you more if there was a system in place which actually keeps a check on your activity, otherwise you wont get any rewards whatsoever.
but i like the idea that there would be more, fun ways to level to 120.
And what are dungeons then? Is it even possible to fail a normal dungeon? What I’m asking for is essentially something else to do while levelling other than dungeons. What is wrong with that exactly?
That’s a fair argument. Yeah, what I would want is for it to tally your D/HPS at the end. If it’s extremely low, or even zero, then you get absolutely nothing at the end - no exp, no piece of blue gear.
If this happens in multiple games you get a warning, then eventually a ban from queueing them for a while.
You do realise you sound like an elitist pig? There is nothing wrong with easy content, especially if it’s geared towards levelling. At the end of the day it’s all just a means to break the monotony of grinding.
That’s not a bad point. I mean, as long as you’re doing SOME dps and/or taking damage around a flag it should count as you being active.
If you’re just standing on the sidelines doing nothing then that’s another story.
Well. I have had a few situations where I get left at flags and have had to sit there do nothing for a full fight. Those situations were you have nobody engaging is quite rare, but sitting as defender does often make you just sit around getting nothing done for a good while. My activity gap based on healing and dps count can be huge from bg to bg, and it’s not because I’m afk in any of them.
If just “some dps/hps” would count, then we might as well just set it to what they are using already for warfronts; Character movement being accounted for, but not even that is bullet proof. That said, in some of the cases where I’ve been a defender, I’ve been accused of being afk because my agenda doesn’t fit another, like when someone in one of the comp stomps this week wanted everyone to farm and nobody defending, as if that was a magical recipe to win(which it’s not, even against bots). The 3 or 4 people sitting at one flag each on watch were all afk since we didn’t listen to him. I could see both stables and BS from my spot, and the ones at those two bases were also moving around on their watch.
To be honest, I actually quite enjoy Comp Stomp just for how bad the AI is at dealing with certain Toys. (I won’t list them because Blizz would nerf them, but just play around and test some out.)
I personally still prefer the battlegrounds against actual players, but I don’t see the harm in it, especially if it encourages people to get into PvP who haven’t before. It seems a weird thing to get angry over.
honestly, if you are heal in a bg you shouldnt defend a point alone, thats a pretty bad idea to begin with.
communication is key. let your team know that you are heal and need at least one person to come back and defend the point so you can do something more useful for your team - healing. if they dont? let them eat cake. its not your job as a heal to guard the flag alone.
well, whats so wrong with implementing more fun ways to level? warfront is okey but it gets dull with the time and its also time limited.
lets imagine they really put in easy bgs for a second, there has to be some sort of activity control. noone forces you to guard a flag the entire match either. and most times its not needed either. so there is plenty of time to do some damage/heal.
It is, but I haven’t been in the mood to talk in chat this week, I’ve just tried to sneak away as soon as a dps have come across. It’s been comp stomp I’ve been running anyways, so it’s not been a disaster that I’ve just let the dps leave me at the back. Some even pointed out that “Well, that is how it goes when you let your healers defend” in one of them where they realized they had no healing for their farm zerg. We had me on one base, and another healer on a second base, and think it was just the two of us at that time.
I run with the default raid frames, and they clearly show who on the team are healers, tanks and dps. Thought people wanted to see that on their frames, but I guess most don’t?
As for the rest of your post I am not against the OP’s suggestion. I was just talking about the “afk tag” from lack of dps and hps output.
First time I did comp stomp(last round it was active), we had a situation where we took all 5 bases and the AI’s just started running back and forth in a tiny area between farm, LM and BS. That was very interesting to watch. It was like they could not make up their mind what base to go for.
I think the afk check(that also scan movement) which they are using in warfronts, should be sufficient. I am aware people are abusing that too though, but somehow people always find a way. Not that I think afk’s are as frequent as many claim(like I said I often see people call out people as afk when I can clearly see that person being active).
I think this would probably be the safest bet, just to check for movement. Trying to do too much automatically can make things worse in some instances, I suppose. The players can still report them if they’re actually not doing anything,
its already an issue when people theoretically know what to do in compstomp.
nobody said that current solutions for the afk problem are perfect.