Comparing potion exploit to IRL situation

I’ve seen way too many idiotic comparisons so let me help you out.

“Imagine stealing $2000 and telling police that someone robbed a bank so you dont deserve punishment” - lol

If you have to compare it to IRL situation I’d compare it to:
Imagine there is a company in the centre of the city and owner hires two employees and they have the same wage. They both live in the suburbs. Jenny is a great person, she plays by the rules. Johny on the other hand always thinks about how to make things easier. They meet every three days at the gas station on their way to work. One day Johny found a way to pour 10 times as much fuel into his gas tank making his car a speed demon. He got to work one hour before Jenny did but he still has a lot of responsibilities and things to do at work.
Unfortunately city cameras caught him speeding and he received fine for driving like a maniac. My point is. He spent money on additional gas and people often get tickets for speeding, sometimes a warning, I dont think they go to jail*.

ladies and gents thanks for your attention

*this may depend on country you live in. in my country you dont go to jail for speeding.

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We get it, people got banned for abusing stuff, stop crying over it or making useless posts about it already, we get it, you screwed up, you got banned, stop crying cause you’re lazy to levl, not talking about you who made this post, but enough of this childish reactions, you screwed up, you got banned, you abused a system that was obvously abused, and if you’re telling me you “didn’t know” you had to seperate the potions and exploit it for it to work, so don’t come in the forum and say you didn’t know, obviously you did! WE GET IT! take your ban and stop crying.

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I said it multiple times. I dont mind my ban. It was worth time-wise.
I made this thread to educate people. Thank you for your input.

Yeah I understand that, but most people are saying how unfair it was, and how they didn’t know, its just all a big fat lie.

Edit: Obviously they know, they thought so many used it that blizzard only cared about their subs, and wouldn’t ban the abusers cause they were many of them, obviously blizzard care if many exploits a system that was not supposed to be there, making youtube videos about it, seperating the potions, doesn’t matter if u used it to level 20-30 or 30-50 or even 35, you used it, no one else to blame than yourself.

People that say they didnt know it was an exploit are lying to themselves. Why would you fight it? This dumb thinking will catch up to them in real life one day.

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I am sorry, but not sorry for the people’s ban, as I said, no one else to blame but yourself.

Could someone maybe explain what exactly happened? What did they abuse and how? I’m sorry if someone already mentioned but I cant seem to find what exactly happened

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The way I see it - the exploit required you to split the stack of your potions. Is there any rational reason why someone would do that? I don’t see any, so except some really fringe cases, I belive that the vast majority of people who used this exploit knew exactly what they were doing.

Thus - yes, I think the bans are justified.

That being said - I think that going up to 31 days is a bit extreme. In my opinion a 3 day warning ban for people who didn’t use it a lot and a 7 day ban for those who either used it a lot or streamed it, would be sufficient.

Most people who got a long ban like that, levled the new allied Races, for its Heritage armor in a day, cause they stacked up to 500% xp with Loomz, 50% Monk Daily Buff, so you’re telling me a month ban was harsh? yeah some might have got longer bans by just levled a bit, but I am glad they didn’t ignore this for once.

The ban duration also depends on if you have been banned before and how many times, so people who got banned for 30 days have prob been banned/warned many times before.

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Well, according to Preach, he was never banned before and he still got the highest ban roll, so yeah :slight_smile: And yes, I know - his case was different, because he streamed it.

Anyway, I’ll reiterate - I’m not advocating for letting this go. I’m just saying that a full month for a leveling exploit that didn’t really cause any major disruption in the game other than allowing some people to get their chars leveled up faster - that’s a bit harsh. I just think that 7 days max would be totally fine.

And before someone says it - nope, I did not get banned. I knew about the exploit, but I assumed they were going to at least roll people back, so I didn’t see a point in even trying to use it.

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Suppose you did not come across any players with 300% stats in battlegrounds?

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Oh, yes - I don’t do PvP, so obviously I didn’t.
I stand corrected.

This would be because he made a video on it, and told people to use the exploit as fast as possible before it got fixed. So, he was the “cause” of many others using it.

I know that all of my friends who did it got a maximum of 7 days. Most only got 2-3 days. So, I’m guessing the 30 days ban was only for those who majorly exploited it, or, like Preach, told everyone about it via a video on Youtube or something.

We don’t know if they’re going to roll back levels or not. It’s gonna take a lot of work for them to do that, since people who have also swapped gear and other things. If they do “roll it back”, I’m guessing they’ll either completely delete the character that it was done on, or take it back to level 1/20 and remove all the gear (giving them the starter gear again).

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That’s a bad analogy though.
If you were to use the ‘2 people driving to work’ thing, then ‘Johny’ wasn’t jailed for speeding, but he was jailed because he used an illegal substance to fuel his car, or the means he used to fuel his car were illegal. That would be a better fitting analogy imo.

Anyway, long story short; people got what they deserved imo.

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What is the point of comparing this to a “RL” situation? I don’t even think yours is so much better either.

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It feels more like an excuse to make yet another topic about this to … well … cry.

Company has a policy/rule. Players broke the rule. And the consequences are clear.

How your example illustrates this is a mystery to me.

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Nobody is arguing that, what they are saying is that the decision that they about this made was not smart and they are critiquing it, for various legitimate and illegitimate reasons. Maybe display some critical thinking as oppose to saying ‘broke the rules’.

To reference ‘RL’ situations, what if someone stole from a store, but it was medicine to help someone having a potentially fatal fit on the street, or what if someone witnessed people freely taking from a cake stand, and assumed the cakes were being given away for free and helped themselves, without realising the owner was only brb.

Things can be complicated buddy.

@Magiola darksorrow

And what do these analogies help? Acting like a sheep doesn’t make stealing justified. And your first one is completely irrelevant.

Actually, they’re surprisingly simple.

Critical thinking? Sure, Blizzard failed to communicate properly about this issue (although why would that be required?) and it took a couple of days to fix it (not too odd). The punishments may be a bit disproportional, although (as I understand) the height of the suspension depends on the player’s history. So it does not depend on this exploit, but on what a player has done before.

I bet by far most players knew perfectly well what they were doing. They knew Blizzard has had waves of suspensions for stuff like exploiting bugs. They played with fire and got burned this time. How much critical thinking do you want?