Well, removal of shuffle is probably not an option once its in. I was for shuffle 100% before DF, but blizzard, as per usual, delivered half a** job and asked for a prepay, while never bothered to finish what they started, because its just pvp. Unfortunately thats how they always operate. I dont think either the current shuffle or the old lfg is the solution. Both the old lfg drove players away from pvp and the current shuffle finished the rest.
The least they could do is finally giving healers a reason to play it. I dont care what is it, either gold, extra rewards, transmogs, easier climbing, whatever. If it means my dps que will be 5-10 mins instead of 20-40m, im fine with healers getting easy glad mounts or something. Whatever gives ppl a reason to play it, because currently there are only cons to playing healer and zero positives…
this is not the soloq people asked for past 7 years
its some own design by holinka or something called shuffel with its own ruleset and everything and its stupid
arena soloq on priva is complete different and even on most other games that have arena type format their soloq is complete different
shuffle is something weird and stupid and no one wanted this, i could see in shadowlads how stupid it is to be stuck with dumb people for 6 rounds if play something passive like rdruid or mw and ur supposed to watch them inting for 5 rounds after u see from round 1 that they are all clueless and ur just healing them 3min for zero reason
now u see people complaining about leavers on their games after they propably play so horrible that no one cares play with them, tbh i dont blame anyone leaving a game they dont care spend their time in. i understand some rather do something else than spend their time with people that grief or tilt them by being too noob for any basic level of play
they have alrdy wasted enough time for the 40min que to get that game, they are done alrdy when they get there
You are absolutely right. The crap version they threw at us is just bunch of bad designs and nobody likes it. Its just “available”, so everybody plays it, because there is no better option. What bothers me is that blizz isnt even trying to do anything with it. They barely noticed the twitch chat on awc. Literally every feedback since the beginning seems to be completely ignored:X
They really need to penalize DPS that aren’t using defensives, CC or interrupts.
I tell a warlock to interrupt cyclones.
He says he’s interrupting them.
NO, I’M TRACKING IT. YOUR INTERRUPT IS OFF CD THE WHOLE GAME YOU DUMB WARLOCK.
Rogue says he used cloak.
NO, I CAN SEE THAT YOU DIDN’T USE IT BECAUSE I TRACK THAT AS WELL.
Warrior doesn’t do his immortal parry thing.
Says he used it. NO, YOU DIDN’T, I CAN SEE YOU DIDN’T.
Why the hell are these people lying. Why are they not penalized harder for not using them than just a loss.
edit: OH, also, should be -50 points by default if you die by line of sighting he healer.
Sure, dps players line healers a lot in low rated shuffle matches, but it’s not always the dps’s fault, you as a healer also have a responsibility to enable your dps to play the game, at least if you want to be able to climb rating.
The issue is people like you loose a game and go on to blame everyone else but themselves. I can guarantee you, judging by the way you type here, at least 50% of the time, when you complain about your teammates, it’s actually you who is the problem. I’m sorry, but you are really low experienced, you can’t even tell who is right and who is wrong because you do not know how the game is supposed to go. Get off your high horse.
Some notable line of sights:
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I’m in spirit because I can’t afford being CCed. I ray the guy, a warrior, that’s getting blasted. He leaps and charges the enemy healer and dies out of range and out of sight.
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I go spirit because I can’t afford being CCed. I guardian spirit a hunter that’s getting blasted and I’m gonna start spamming him with heals, he just yeets it around the pillar and dies to dots there.
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Warrior running the automatic trinket, gets sapped and it trinkets the sap and then he leaps and charges the enemy healer, he gets stunned around the corner and dies before I can get there.
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Warlock that decides that teleporting with full dots on him is better than staying in my line. He dies to the dots before I can get there after he teleports because he’s just staying behind the pillar instead of going into line.
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Shadow priest on blade’s edge that just jumps down when he’s getting focused and he just runs under the bridge and then around the pillar. I jumped down after him, I feather and run after him spamming swap on him so he won’t die to dots. He never gets into line with me and dies to dots ticking him down.
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Warrior that previous round died by leaping and charging around the pillar when on the enemy team. I see him leaping and grip instantly so he won’t kill himself. Nope, he just charges right back in and then follows the ret around the pillar and dies without trinketting.
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Rogue that gets cheat death procced on him, he cloaks and vanishes and yeets to the other end of the arena, behind pillars, sitting there in stealth spamming “HEAL ME”. Like, bro.
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Warrior that charges enemy healer and follows him around the corner, then gets gripped even further away and then he leaps in the opposite direction from me, around another pillar.
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Retri that just charges at the enemy team instantly in the blackrook arena, he runs into their starting room and dies there. He repeated this all 6 games.
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Warrior that leaps and charges the enemy healer around the pillar, gets stunned with no trinket and dies before I can get in his line.
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Warrior that jumps down on blade’s edge arena, I jump down to follow him, he runs under the bridge and up a ramp and I’m trying to keep him in line, then he jumps down again and then he leaps into the enemy starting room and dies there.
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Rogue is dying, shadowsteps back to me and I go spirit because I can’t afford getting CCed at this point. THIS ROGUE IS SPAM A/D STEPPING RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER. Like, bro. STOP.
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Warlock is going low, I sw:d the poly. I fade the hex. I fake the counterspell. I ray the warlock to get some juicy healing on him. He teleports as I ray him and doesn’t go into my line. I start running there and I’m hit with a frost nova, I dispel it and then I’m hit with entangling roots and then I get cycloned. I get cycloned again. I get cycloned again. Warlock is still not going into my line and the DPS are on their way there to murder him around the corner. I feather to run there and the warlock runs to the opposite side of it when I get there, into the enemy and then he dies.
If people were playing like this in 2s/3s I would just not play with them at all.
edit: Special shoutout to the shadow priest who thinks that “Don’t line me” means that he should grip me into the open when he’s about to die so I can get CCed into oblivion so he definitely will die. Maybe could have stopped the death if he hadn’t gripped me into the open.
Oh, forgot to address this specifically:
No. It’s across all shuffle matches. I have played with people that are at 1200 rating that are better at not lining me than people I’ve been queued with/into at 2000 rating.
I didn’t bother reading all that, you are low rated and it’s your own fault.
You can name as many situations, where it clearly wasn’t your fault, as you want, doesn’t change the fact that you sh*t the bed as many times, as other people did during your games, otherwise you would be higher. You can’t make your teammates not do mistakes, but you can stop doing mistakes yourself and I can guarantee you, you are doing plenty of them.
i just cant understand how everyone keeps ignoring that his name is bootybuilder
i was in same lobby with him/her/crowbar and cant forget the name
i went 5-1, bootybuilder went 4-2, it were good lobby for bootybuilder
and that its a mw named bootybuilder like ring master, makes me think those shopping tv hula hoops that ladies swirl to shape their figure
Ok, on ignore you go. Bye.
You’re just like that lock in a shuffle I was in earlier that was like “hurr, your positioning is awful”.
Yet I went 6-0. Because my positioning meant I could bully the enemy healer. My positioning was “bad” because he didn’t want to play like I made him to not lose. “hurr i would die if i teleported”. So don’t teleport. Then he loses when facing me. I guess my “bad positioning” made him lose when facing me and winning when on my team.
edit: To think more, you’re just like everyone when someone complains about people being bad on their team, lmao.
Overwatch 1:
“Hurr, people bad because you’re silver, you play bad too”
Get to gold
“Hurr, people bad because you’re gold, you play bad too”
Get to platinum
“Hurr, people bad because you’re plat, you play bad too”
Get to diamond
“Hurr, people bad because you’re diamond, you play bad too”
M+:
“Hurr people bad because you’re doing 15, you bad too”
Then you do do 20s:
“Hurr people bad because you’re doing 20s, you bad too”
Then you do 25s:
“Hurr people bad because you’re doing 25s, you bad too”
Literally doing content that only like 1%, if even that, of the game’s population will ever see and people will still call you bad, lmao.
You people are just too much. You’ll just keep moving the goalpost.
Elahri, can i interest you on a set of hula hoops?
you are 16 or you’re ignoring him because he’s telling the truth, that’s a huge problem with your or the current generation, you think you should get everything for free and don’t do anything about it. if someone is bad he is bad, but it’s just annoying that you always have to justify yourself i’m not on 2400 because of player x or y no, you’re there because you have an l2p issue.
I play heal druid as main in legion back then after I got dominant demonic and dread gladiator sold this acc and stopped. I’ve been back since s1 df and back then people were already crying in the forum, including a well-known lock here. and then i see you explaining the world to everyone with 1500.
bootylicious the name of bootybuilders next alt
Agreed, i havent gotten super far, 1600-1800 range, but in 2v2s im having much better conquest gains, in solo shuffle its bassicly ‘‘We lost 1st round, healer issue, im gonna afk/throw until im on the enemy healer’s team’’
you gave priest a try for 12 rounds, but i agree stick to 2s with heal. its no worth to heal shuffle
i see you are now making a warrior, that is also a beneficial choise for you 
you got all the right plays checked, stick to 2s with healing, play a warrior for dps, go wild at shuffle
the minmax of df pvp, heal 2v2, play warrior in shuffle
Uh i do solo shuffle weekly quest ( the 12 rounds ) everytime its up on druid/priest
I am not, i leveled grovi to 69 for the funny number :')
hahaha good 
anyways healing in 2s is fine, once the mmr gets more normalized it will be enjoyable to play healer aswell, just wouldnt touch shuffle not even with a 10 meter pole
No, because he’s just another goalpost mover. Pretty much everyone that says “you bad cuz x” where x is some rating is a goalpost mover.
I’ve seen the same thing with m+, overwatch and so forth.
People just being all “hurr, you bad cuz x”. Then you go beyond that and they just move the goalpost and keep doing it and they will do it even when you’re going into top 1% player territory, like I saw with m+, “hurr you bad cuz you not top 0.1%”. Would most likely go “hurr you bad cuz you not rank 1” if I started doing keys that only 0.1% ever could do. Same deal in overwatch, where I was almost master at one point, people were like “hurr, you bad cuz silver” when I complained about bad players and they were like “hurr, you bad cuz diamond” when I got to almost master.
Bronze: Eight percent Silver: 21 percent Gold: 32 percent Platinum: 25 percent Diamond: 10 percent Master: Three percent Grandmaster: One percent
But still “hurr you bad cuz x”, it doesn’t matter where you are in the player base. These people will just keep moving where “x” is.
I went 6-0 the other day twice, therefore I’m a good player!
That wl in your low MMR lobby was prolly also clueless. Chances are you both had bad positioning. Idc either way, the truth is, you are here on the forums complaining about dps players because they do mistakes and you even said stuff like:
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but how many times did your awful positioning cost people the game? How many times did you not press a defensive or pressed it at the wrong time? What should the punishment be for you in that case? The dps players sat 30 mins queue for you to throw the game.
Or you never feed games? In that case, how come you never got duelist? I don’t believe in this goal post crap, I agree it’s bs. You don’t need to have same exp as me or higher for me to consider you a good player, but there has to be some substance there and your exp ain’t it.
Also you don’t have to be a good player at all. Not everyone who plays this game has to go super hardcore and collect r1 titles like their life depends on it, it’s totally fine to be 900 rated and play a shuffle once every two weeks for fun after work, clicking half the buttons and having no macros or addons, but those people should not go on the forums and complain about others, hence my cheeky “get off your high horse” comment.
They really gotta give every healer by default a heroic leap type of spell. The main issue is all these DPS are a lot more mobile than the healers
I play rdruid which is one of the more mobile healers, but even I can’t save a Warrior that first forced me into a bad position cause he is overextending and losing and later when I get CC chained because of him he just randomly does a leap + charge to the other side of the arena and dies because I can’t make it to him in time
Give every healer a heroic leap and the priest spell that pulls people in, with no CD so we can pull back zugzug melee players
SL can keep its MindGames… I want Door of Shadows back!