I’ve seen alot of people complaining about long ques for dps in shuffle due to lack of healers, so I decided to give it a few rounds today to see how big the difference was between healing shuffle and regular 3s.
To all the healers who actually endure healing shuffle, I salute your effort, but i’d advice you to go regular 3s instead cuz it’s 100 times less of a headache 
So for everyone considering healing in the current season, I’d advise you to reconsider unless its good ol’ regular 3s
(Healer)
I actually find it better for me to go for solo shuffles.
In 3s, when I join a team and it’s obvious that they’re not really good, I can’t bring myself to immediately leave. I play a few more games with them to be nice. And my rating suffers because of this.
Also I hate socializing.
you were in my lobby few hour ago bootybuilder, i went 5-1 there on my frostmage, there was a healer dif with the other healer. the disc let him be poly and kicked all game so he got 2-4 u got 4-2
i think you was doing good, you are right tho that legacy arenas are better for healer rating / hour wise
i remember ur name and i emoted hug on u after the round that dh + fury were trying bully me all round and uhdk in our team did absolute nothing grip or cc wise to peel or anything but we got it 2v3 sorta and you kept me alive through that zug hell 
some of these elo hell game feel like the teammates are playing for the enemy instead when theres uhdk in team who does just nothing
I mean healer mmr is even more deflated than dps mmr (4 healers above 2,4k vs >100 dps players), so you get even “punished” for playing the role.
Inbefore WoW devs convince themselves that people just don’t enjoy the role and that it’s absolutely not their fault that the game mode is beyond frustrating for heal specs.
i read that all the time but there is also another side to that. Disc is the most represented spec above 1800. MW is second. Most people complaining are below 1800 and are looking just for excuses
So saying that the game mode is unenjoyable for healers is looking for excuses now? Being demotivated about healers being significantly lower on average than their dps counterparts is also looking for excuses?
I mean, blizz is constantly talking about trying to make the role more attractive yet they treat healers like second class citizens. They can’t even come out with some dumb bandaid fixes like giving more rewards than a dumb blue box, inflating the rating in the healer bracket a bit, tune down dampening.
I’m not even sure why you bring out Disc now. They were significantly nerfed and you barely see one in AWC and even the strongest healer in high rated Shuffles (MW) are much lower than the strongest dps classes. Like come on…
How do you people even climb? I had 3 games now in 3 hours and all of those had bad rng, where I went 3-3, because people randomly died even if I intervene+ stun+ rallying cry. How do you keep playing? That’s more frustrating than league, and worst thing is that game ends when someone dies. Legit hunters die with turtle up all the time, or I had a disc priest die without using ignore pain. Now ofc I also faced them, but in my small sample size they didn’t happen to make those blunders against me :[
its the que times that kill it for me, all the griefing or bad rng would mean nothing if could spam games with 2-5min que it would eventually even out
but if you wait 50min per game then its demotivating like u described if you feel your time were “stolen” by some weird there. the longer you wait the more you feel like you deserve something for having to wait this long and then its stolen buy guy afking 2 first rounds before he wakes up that he actually has to press buttons in fast pace meta
thats my favorite when people die in team but then start pressing things later when they sorta figure out the pace of the game, but even this i wouldnt care if the que were 2-5min like privas soloq for dps were, i could just go next almost insta and forget it
main thing is that bootybuilder gets more for his lobby than disc playing bad on other side and that i got more than lobbys uhdk,fury,dh players playing without arms
bootybuilder went positive, all is well
lower representation at top ratings but as i said above 1800 disc and mw are the most represented specs more than dps specs. And most people (you too) are below that.
From what i’ve been told, healing is apperently better at higher mmr tho due to teammates actually having decent positioning and understanding of cd trading. I’m just baffled how people can suffer through the initial games if you didnt keep any mmr from last season when it was super inflated.
That being said this issue doesnt affect me much since i’ve never been an arena main player, but i’ve always managed to enjoy it quite alot as any role in previous expansions, and I do believe most people trying out shuffle as a healer now will have the same experience before abandoning that ship
I agree with the op. The dampening is extremely opressive in RSS and 2s. I can see it on my Ele where in 3s I do 15 k HPS with all my healing CDs over the game and in these modes 7 k at best. The whole 6 rounds design is nonsense to me and also increases the queue times because once 2 healers are locked for 6 rounds they have to play all these 6 rounds. Instead I’d prefer literal 1 game solo queue for 3s that is an alternative to LFG.
So basically if you have 2 friends to play the game you play premade but if they are not online you queue solo and can gear a fresh alt or play let’s say 2nd Shaman just for practice purposes. Unfortunately Blizzard after all their fails all over the years try to aniticipate issues and cause new ones themselves like 30 min. queues even on lower CR. Also the point is that RSS and regular 3s feel like different games with different meta. This isn’t healthy. Also all people who think that the solution is to create another bracket are absolutely clueless it would extend the queues to even worse state. Imo basically Blizzard needs to do what I said. If you don’t want to socialize or your friends are offline you can still play solo but premade teams should be allowed in the same queue. Literally Solo queue is no different to LFG. It should also allow 2x dps players to queue and find a random healer. This way we have 1 populated bracket and 1 game mode without one with heavy dampening and other with lighter one.
I’m low rated in Shuffle because I haven’t played the mode except for one day where my duo partner couldn’t play and I wanted to farm honor and conquest because I’ve started 4 weeks after season start and needed to catch up. Very cool that you pretty much ignore all my arguments on why I dislike and avoid Shuffle and instead go straight to rating blaming. You can blame me as much as you want and you can also pretend that the game mode is fine for healers - it won’t change your 30 min queue times. Dps can either agree that Shuffle sucks for healers and help to solve the problem or they can enjoy spending most of their free time in a queue (or quit the game I guess).
i wait 40min to get lobby with less than challenger xp sv and sp to just die after enemy train me on mage for 3min per round, rsham is some below challenger xp too and other healer evoker is some mglad guy so theres huge healer dif aswell, 40min wait to get sp or sv just die in team when his ur side and cos this rsham cant find his buttons to his life, i cba this kind of bull#%& after waiting 40min for game my mmr keeps tanking and i dont care sit these ques to be griefed by these people
best is this rsham says “no one interupts anything” after i have 5 kick on clone and even the boomy answers him that he get kicked all the time, the thing is this idiot just keeps stand mid of map and never grounds or uses his wind sheer but he is your healer after 40min wait for this crap and ure supposed to give enemy wins from games like this
they should just remove this mode they made a huge fail of it, healing sucks and players suck and even on dps theres no point sit long ques to play with this stupid people that cant do 1 grounding or wind sheer after u have kicked or db 5 clones which ur healer would eat cos he just stands mid map like a idiot and talks about cc
ppl who claim there is no elo hell, this is elo hell
https://ibb.co/0qD44Q6
you get 4 ppl like this in ur team and everyone keep die random even in ur team ofc cos the heals are also terrible and there is only so much u can peel for sv who keeps run around on open vs boomy and sp while idiot rsham is casting healing wave which no one hard casts but this guy all game
good luck
So you’re claiming that there is elo hell , and then go to link someone with low exp achievs?
That isn’t indicative of anything
I’ve seen people with SL glad mount go 0-6 in a 1400 lobby, and I have proof
That isn’t what elo hell is at all , and if you’re a decent player (2100 exp?) you should be able to fly through these lobbies
You advocate for RSS to be deleted when you’ve achieved your peak rating in the game mode
It doesn’t make sense
You know that we play with higher rated people as well because we’re thrown into their lobbies to ease the queues, right?
1600 healers vs 2200 dps.
The DPS STILL don’t know what line of sight is, what defensives are, what interrupt is and so forth.
It’s crazy. I just played a game with a 1900 something DK that just followed a retri around the corner every round against the retri and got smashed into the ground. HOW DO YOU KEEP REPEATING THAT MISTAKE. HOW DID YOU NOT LEARN FROM THE FIRST DEATH LIKE THAT. Like, don’t follow the retri around the corner. Just see that the retri has crusade up every time, he has final reckoning ready, he has divine toll ready and the stupid DK just follows him around the corner to die every round against him. He won the rounds when he played with the retri but that’s it.
The problem of 3s for an average player is that queing into shuffle and into lfg puts you into random bunch of donuts, who make you go crazy. But shuffle makes the que instant compared to few hours in que. I generally play only few weeks of every season, because there is nothing to do for me since every meaningful contact is gone by now. Its close to impossible to get a reliable active ppl, who dont quit within a week or two.
some challenger main seem to be replying to me constant cos i just see ignored content
if i wanted read random battleground chat i would go que into random battlegrounds
im smarter than people stuck on challenger for 4 expansions row so i also dont care what they say and i dont care if their feelings get hurt if they relate to some random noob i show as example from team of elo hells
https://ibb.co/0qD44Q6
thing is i dont care play with career challengers or in lobbys where firemage do 7k dps when i had to cc 3 target solo cause this mage is not doing anything normal
today I saw game where mage did 7k dps for 2:20min where i did 2 kill window for us by ccing 3 ppl because the mage isnt doing anything, and he doesnt even start combusting when heal is on blind and off target stun and kill target on kidney he saves his combust to next expansion he also stays on challenger
or kited rog+retri for 3min on my mage with demo in team free doing 30k dps and zero peels for 3min duration nor rsham in group purging single freedom on pala nor linking us, he just stands mid map casting healing waves
if i play demo myself and enemy goes on my team i make everyone immortal as i have brains and i time amp weakness on their cds and im free to spam fears and i have 3 stuns and coil and i have slow and i can put fel lord top of the action where they are training some guy, but when im mage myself there is demo in team that does nothing of this not even half
on priva the game is more enjoyable as there is no people like this, everyone is atleast normal
i feel the same on my heals, started heal sl when it was more reliable and faster get in games than search as dps
in df youre basically out of luck if you try play heal tho, there is no good option
either you go play shuffle for no gain and go crazy watching stupidest people in the game or you go play normal arenas with r1 on 1800-2100mmr so its not rly enjoyable playing yolo vs them for day, i personally dont care sweat vs r1 teams on 1900mmr atleast as im playing yolo with lfg or chilling with someone like me from bnet and we are not r1 nor we should imo be forced play vs them, i wont. i wait and dont play my heals
so the only option pretty much is play dps for shuffle which also sucks cause you wait 50mins for games that are basically a circus with random extremely bad people most of time
i would remove shuffle as it pretty much ruined the game like this how blizz designed it into the game, there would been a 100% better way to make soloq than this