I disagree. For example I use WA only for tracking CDs, boss mechanics (like timers and energy bars), buff/debuff durations. Even if Blizzard somehow manage to implement an ok CD/buff tracker and fix their telegraphing for mechaanics, it will not allow me to for example add custom music for when my buff is up or a funny meme to pop up ony screen when I step in poo. Might sound siilly but little things like that are what give me joy in this game XD.
i Believe this game should get easier and more simple in a lot of things including combat for pve pvp and talents and spells. but addons are stoping blizzard to do it because as soon as they want to do those , an addon comes out that fixes the problem temporarily,
ye i understand you, so for that i believe if they want to remove an addon they should create something better instead of it that comes from the game itself .
like the Wa you are using. imagine they create something that does the WA job better and do the funny things that you want it to do for you
True. However, more people simply look at overall in details and not in log files.
Actually, most people don’t even log runs.
Nope. That is a made up problem. The so called “arms race” only exists because of Blizzard. If an addon trivializes a certain boss fight, who cares besides Blizzard. I mean its on you to decide if you want to use that addon or not or if you want a challenge or not. Like seriously does anyone even care if RWF get done in 1 week or 2? The majority of the playerbase can’t even clear the raid in 1 season (sometimes even in 1 expansion) even with the addons.
To create this game you have to have a large amount of data on the data of the game, so to speak.
I believe they have an insane amount of data points.
Stats for everything.
Which is creepy, cause they know what’s going on with your gaming. They know how quickly you learn and relearn, and many personal details on your habits.
It’s all statistics, surely, as it is the most usuable form. No need to know you specifically. But they sure could know you if they wanted.
If someone sticks out, like you might, perhaps they take a closer gander at times. Asking themselves: How did this guy manage to run this so efficiently at that low an item level, let’s look at the tapes and see. Perhaps. Could be anything that sticks out, really. Like some habit you have of picking up the gate shard, flying over there every time picking it up. You’ve done that 900 times, which is a hundred times more than anyone else has! Then the question might become why you did that and if it can be used somehow. Or it’s dismissed as an anomaly of course. But all of that weird data they got. Lots.
And of course the deeps data. Like exactly, and from which position ofc.
The only reason they skimp on data to users is that users do bad things with it, making the wrong assumptions.
YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
its not a made up problem.It seems like we don’t agree at all.
you do you and i do mine
1 Like
Sure, but mind explaining how its not made up? I mean seriously who cares?
whats the point?
when ill try to explain as good as i can but you dont accept it at all?
its just a never ending argument 
lets see what blizzard does in the future
If they take away my disco party time bloodlust WA I will RIOT! 
Even if its not good hopefully they release api for the damage meter so addons can improve it without the current downsides of damage meter, so addon still but have acces to full data without putting to much load on your system to collect all this data since it can be done server side now, they just have to make it work and make it accurate.
The problem is bliz refusing to update or innovate of their telegraphs and offloading it to addons devs.
WoW without WA’s, with bliz not stepping in to provide the majority of what WA’s provide for boss mechanics, will be extremely boring to play. Because it will result in less frequent mechanics, less nuanced mechanics, and SIGNIFICANTLY more time to react to mechanics.
Which to me is just time spent doing nothing.
2 Likes
Exactly.
The points me trying to understand what the issue with the combat addons is. My point being that even with most extreme cases of “addon trivializing a fight”. the fight itself has not been exactly trivial, so much so that the overwhelming majority of the playerbase did not beat it even with their help.
Also this
1 Like
yes i agree with that
The thing people need to realise is the mechanic isn’t judged by what it is on paper. It’s judged by the end result of the mechanic + the weakaura.
People can say “Oh just give people more time so a computer doesn’t have to work it out for you” but this doesn’t really fix the issue.
“Go to X, you have 3 seconds” and “Three people go to XYZ, work it out amongst yourselves, you have 10 seconds” are two COMPLETELY different mechanics.
Bliz can make both, but they need to do the work the WA was instead of just making everything easier.
Okay you two continue im a bit tired Seeya gl
How do you know Details are accurate and fair? You’re expressing concerns about something you haven’t even seen in alpha state 
The dps/hps data for Details come directly from the game (designed by who?) … so I guess the same data will be used as input for their in game addon.
What if the scoreboard is more accurate than 3rd party addon? Just because it shows higher number doesn’t mean it necessarily correct … this reminds me of logic - it’s 100 bucks expensier, it must be deffinitely better.
The existence of so many addons just show how people are rellying on some addons instead of using logic and skill sometimes. Just to prove my point - all game content can be played without a single addon.
Addons exist since players started to ask for more detailed information, in some cases more guidance.
How can you be so sure that any addons are giving you relevant information. Discrepancies or API bugs can exist in addons too, not just in an in-game tool. How can you be sure that sim addons are giving you relevant information? How do you know that WA are showing proper numbers?
What if that means that Details are not optimized correctly?