There is no difference what talents they will make. Most of players will take a build from guide/whatever simming better.
hero talents controversy is the second dumbest thing that is trending in wow community.
Is it a product of some streamer youtube clickbait video?
Believe it or not, it is possible the opinion or view of something can be shared between multiple individuals regardless of if they have seen or heard each other, so no they are viewed I’d say mostly by the free views of the people themselves.
The world aint hiveminded… yet atleast
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Not giving DK necromancer as one of the hero talent to grant more unique undead models to command is a massive L on blizzard part and unless they add it as one of the hero talents for DK i wont be interested at all whit the new XP.
I’m just hoping that A) it doesn’t create more button bloat and B) swapping isn’t restricted, creating covenants 2.0.
I have to agree I’ve not really seen anything negative or lukewarm about it. On the other hand I don’t watch streamers and my bubble is obviously my own circle of friends and guildies.
So people’s own bubbles do vary.
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I watched it in the background whilst working. 100% agree. Game is just not fun anymore. It’s simply min maxing everything and I almost feel bad for devs that they have to cater to those nerds. Look at what made you frown thread. Most people whine about m+, team comps, how they get declined, how meta sucks, how pvp meta sucks and whatnot but they’re a part of the problem too.
People keep saying that there are no longer chores in DF. Yeah, cool. Sadly there’s literally almost no content besides m+, raiding and pvp. It’s just so boring. And those ascendancy classes they yoinked from poe… Why is there no enchanter mage spec which allows you to enchant melee weapons with unique properties, rogues moving at 900% movement speed with crossbows, paladins using dark magic cos they betrayed the light or whatever (im clueless when it comes to the lore XD). Everything sounds super bland.
WOW colossus warrior spec - +15% crit chance when swining 2hand axe and one additional button to click. Slayer spec - 15% haste passive skill and the same ability but with darker animation. Crazy changes.
That is a gross overestimation of what hero talents were gonna be, they were never gonna be so insanely heavy that they would make a normal class be
that would’ve new specs entirely.
I do think that alot of people who find them to be bad have simply coped so hard that they were exactly what *insert player * wanted they are sad now cause it doens’t play like an entirely different class.
Also those things exist already btw
that’s a proffesion
That’s a hunter, granted less speed
1.That’s a dk
2. You can’t betray the light, as long as you’re convinced what you’re doing is right you can use the light.
If you want to compare random +x to vers/haste/crit/whatever stat proc to a enchanter mage then sure you’re right 
Could’ve been FUN to have more than one bow spec.
Then call it a Junkie spec. I’d love that tbh.
WoW needs innovation. We’ve been receiving the same recycled content since Legion. It’s boring af, overcomplicated for most people and simply not fun.
Well yes, less fun but unfortunately if one exists the other cant cause then they would overlap and be called lazy so that wont happen
Yes but FUN isn’t balance, which is why I have an eternal hate for the people that ruined my favourite game cause they were so bored they felt like making a tier list and excluding due to spec and or class or ilvl. And there are only so many things you can have a crossbow/bow shoot, only so many different “*insrert * shots”, historically every melee class used a bow, we had a ranged slot and we used them to tag mobs, you ca still find this in classic rn.
I agree, would be possibly fun, not really sure what it entails but would be fun I suppose
They never acted like they were class skins.
Only content creators brought up the concept of class skins not the community.
You have more in-depth systems that are ever-green while being balanced (to some degree).
Do we need to go back to borrowed power because the scaling with damage numbers was insane, classes felt incomplete etc.
Honestly it feels like this is an mmo played by people who want it to be PoE.
At this point we wont ever get back an actual mmo cause of competition and people not knowing what a social life is, so they just grind away.
Now that would’ve been fun. Poe is probably one of the best games on the market and has been for years. It’s amazing how GGG are able to communicate with player base and release leagues every 3-4 months. They only nerf things that are immortal, otherwise they let them live for the rest of the league.
facts. as long as this min max mindset dominates wow, blizzard will just recycle old dungeons every season.
Then go play PoE, if it’s good then go play it, don’t change WoW into that. There’s a reason I don’t play PoE and instead play WoW, cause I like WoW and not PoE
That’s exactly what I’ve been doing since Jailer Cutting Edge. I obtain portals every season and quit the game. It doesn’t mean I’m not allowed to express my opinion
Thank you for proving my point. MMOs are already one of the most niche genres of games out there. You don’t need to make even more niche and then add the requirement all players need a PHD to understand the thing on top.
It the same with Diablo 4 it’s a casual ARPG played by PoE players who complain that isn’t PoE 
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You can, and you did, you like PoE. Cool.
Except you said that it would be better if WoW was PoE, and I pointed out my opinion that I’d appreciate it if my game remains the game I enjoy and not something to be forced down a path that doesn’t suit it, only to be abandoned two seconds later.
POE is insanely gatekept by how their systems work. Its over convoluted and bloated for the sake of it.
Not everyone wants to play a game that needs a maths degree to figure out if things aare good. Plus why are you comparing an MMO to an ARPG theyre galaxies apart in their make up and aims.
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Because they want an MMORPG with ARPG combat, difficulty and loot grind.
So they want solely an APRG then go play one of the many ARPG’s out there and stop this wanting for an MMO staple to become an ARPG.
Its like me saying i want COD to be more like Baldurs Gate 3.
Its fine if wow isnt as complex or intricate or hard as people may want. Theres untold amount of games that can give that. Stop demanding every game have systems as complex as POE and is as hard as souls likes.