Will WW really do well in Shadowlands? TOD is a really big part of our damage and with other specs getting back stuff aswell it just feels kinda sad to get a boring tiger you cant control and a worse reverse harm. I love that fortifying brew is becoming baseline but the old TOD and reverse harm both had good syngergy with fortifying brew since they scale with health and now its all just gone for an uncontrollable pet. I really hope the old reverse harm will stay as a PVP talent atleast.
Now covenents all are boring things you cant controll except for the kyrian one which sounds fun on paper being able to RSK>Kyrain>RSK but the covenent ability dosen’t count as a Monk ability so it would break our hit combo. I got really excited when i heard about the pruning but i just dont know anymore.
I was hyped about the ‘unpruning’ after we lost mobility & cc & heals in BfA. But none of that’s being unpruned.
Feels like we’re just getting a worse ToD, nerfed FortBrew & a baseline Tiger that not everyone wants.
I don’t know what to make of the WW monk anymore.
Used to think we were a super mobile bursty spec with a niche healing ability. Now I’d argue our relative mobility is nothing special (most specs can lock us down or surpass our mobility), non-hybrids are out healing us & we’re losing our burst from ToD.
idk if we’ll have followers in SL, but in Nazj. mine falls to the ground when I’m on Zen flight, gets into combat & I come tumbling after. I’m not sure what Zen flight is supposed to be for, other than a really slow vulnerable mount?
Sick of being sapped rooted stunned feared poly’d horrified knocked-back hex’d rooted poly’d stunned feared asleep mc’d feared rooted stunned LL’d.
Either chain cc’ing people to death is legit (in which case, return our 15sec paralysis & FoF stun) or it’s not legit & cc’s across the board should be nerfed like ours were.
WW will be garbage in shadowlands. Core issues are not addressed, bad scaling is not addressed, bugs aren’t addressed, talent issues aren’t addressed, none of the covenant abilities seem to be made with ww in mind, some are actually working against the class and we get this mandatory pet and pets are always worse than just damage. There is a high chance ww will not care about mastery with all those pets that don’t benefit from it. Don’t play it for your own good if you want to do raids on mythic.
Considering how much the pvp whiners have shed their tears against WW’s the past 2 seasons i do not see a bright future for WW in SL. You see, people are used to have rogues the best and the one and only melee. When something different comes in the way even famous rogue streamers like pshero whine about WW’s, imagine that.
This spec faces 2 problems:
1st is Bremaster/MW
2nd is PVP
1st
By having for a pretty long time brewmaster the top tier tank you end up having 2 brewmasters inside a Mythic raid? Maybe and a MW. Now having a WW as well would end up 4/20 being monks. That is not something blizzard alows to any class besides mages/roges and a few exceptions over time.
2nd
Each time they try to balance out WW it gets extremely strong in PVP and whiners get back to forum work. I kind of lost hope for WW to be honest, it IS a viable spec but i did lost hope to see it top tier spec.
Which is a bad thing IMO
Feels bad when all other abilities deal less damage to compensate for ToD
I like the changes they’re making to it since it was only ever used to trade cds in pvp and all it did in pve was allow you to top the meters at the start of the fight
However, I don’t like that they’re giving us a garbage version of expel harm and that 3/4 of our covenant abilities are tied to resource generation which feels awful with our current mastery. Plus we don’t even have a good way of dumping all of that extra energy/chi
And the last covenant ability is just a button that summons a bunch of pets, like we haven’t had enough of pets already with our buggy damage cd that summons clones. Combine this with baseline xuen and you’ll be running around with what, like 6 pets?
Not only are they probably going to come with lots of bugs, but it just doesn’t feel great turning into a pet class when you’re supposed to be a martial artist. Will also feel pretty bad in pvp since all it takes is one nova, earthgrab totem or something similar to completely negate your damage
Our talents are also pretty lame in that there is basically 0 choice
I am switching back to enhancement for Shadowlands and as a backup will have a Demon hunter (As they will always be viable) and a fire mage or bm hunter incase enhancement ends up being nerfed in one of the patches.
I highly recommend the same thing if you decide on WW , to have an alt that is always going to be good to secure a raid spot if the WW can’t keep up like in 8.3 where it’s bottom of the dps charts.
If your focus is M+ then WW shouldn’t be an issue. It’s still good at M+ in 8.3, not Demon hunter greatness but good enough.