How many feral you see at 2200-2300? Cause there were in total 100 games with ferals above 2200. You must see them ALOT. lol
No, not a lot, you’re right. I admit it. Barely even 10 I guess? Don’t know to be honest. Very few games. But this is not what I’ve been replying to tho.
That’s my response. Personally, I have no issues healing ferals. And I would love to play with a feral 2v2 or 3v3. That’s it. Ferals being good/bad is irrelevant to get to 2k IMO.
Look, I’m really tired of you chasing me in every post. What exactly do you want from me? If ferals were better, you’d be higher rating? Rank 1 maybe, I don’t know. What are you going to do with that information? Will you keep playing a weaker spec and achieve something or will you just complain? It is really prestigious IMO to have high rating on a weaker spec.
idk man i think it shows cause on any alt i made after realizing feral isnt worth it i got above 2.2 in SS.
and on my main of 12 years which is feral im hardstuck at 1.8- 1.9 with 600 games and one time i touched 2.1 at the start of this season while ive always been at 2.2 + in any other season in any other bracket inculding 2v2, Rated Bgs.
Feral is utter garbage, pain to play, and design is old, there many clunky elements as forms buging out, rake stun not working, feral charge being interrupted mid-way or landing on previous location and many other issues.
In an ideal world and scenario if you can forsee through the 10s of tracking addons you can pull it off, but practically its unejoyable to do so, and incredibly difficult.
And difficult and fun dont have to be enemies, feral has always been challenging but it always have been fun, as its been stripped of its traits it became boring and painful to play.
On top of that you will meet Gladiators at rating that you shouldnt way too often.
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There’s a big difference between leaving a Resto druid alone and leaving a Moonkin alone. Nobody ever leaves a Moonkin alone. And Moonkin has next to zero self healing and survivalbility. Cyclone is literally part of the way a Moonkin lives, a Resto Druid just has it as a bonus but can still win without it. Coincidentally Moonkin doesn’t work well with Resto Druids as their healer in most situations either. Class stacking is generally bad, you’re likely almost never going to see intentional Shadow Priest with healer spec Priest, Ret with Holy paladin, etc combinations.
While this also happens to Warlocks and Mages, those classes are miles ahead in survivalbility compared to Moonkins. Same for Elemental Shaman, because it has a lot more disruption CC to deal with melees.
So Moonkin is basically in the same position as a Shadow priest, permanently ran down. Difference is you don’t have a button to guarantee survive burst such as Dispersion or a 1s immunity to avoid big damage windows or stuns if timed.
Agree. We were talking ferals however.
What I wanted to say (as a reply about feral survivability and death ratio) is that Ferals are often times targets not just because they actually CAN get killed, but also that leaving Feral alone and killing his DK for example is just extremely stupid.
With this example, Warlocks are often times a target for all 6 rounds. Does that mean they’re squishy? 
In some scenarios, they are. Warlocks are kill targets not because of being squishy or not. It’s about what causes the most problems for your team if left free. You don’t want Chaos bolts flying for free, or 200k dps Affli locks. Demo is the only lock spec that can be ignored for something else to be focused, such as their Mage partner or Ele partner, etc.
The same goes for both Moonkin and Feral. You leave them alone = cyclone spams on everyone. So by being default kill targets, both the specs need to get survivalbility buffs.
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I will complain, and I hope everyone does, so that Blizzard finally understands that there is an issue. The only reason we get many changes is because surprise surprise people complain. Weird right? If everyone just sat silent and nobody gave any feedback about bad class design we wouldnt be getting any changes.
I won’t be playing a spec with bad design lol, why would I? Why would I torture myself and play a spec that is not enjoyable? To flex to randos online that I got high rating and I hated every minute of it? I’d rather go to play a different spec / class or not play at all and complain until they finally understand that darn it there might actually be a problem with how they are doing stuff.
Good luck. It’s a question of mentality. I’m glad it makes you fell better.
Well, at least somebody has to actually play the game sometimes in between complaining.
Then don’t? 
Spec is weak/bad design. Do you want me to beg you to play feral or what? 
You can play whatever you want. You pay subscription. You’re not forced to play feral if you dislike it so much. Or am I wrong?
Its okay lads, I can confirm. Moonkin still takes 0 damage.
Feral still can run around like a hooligan in bear form, don’t worry about it. Armor changes mean nothing for druid.
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And then we all laughed 
i mean you got 3 shadowsteps plus 1 sepsis teleport, plus 100% speed plus cloak immunity, along with vanish clearing anything besides stuns.
And u can use those while dealing dmg.
Feral cant deal dmg while powershifting.
Same with warriors, literally glued to your ash tray. Not to mention you cant kyte with 70% slow thars reaplied to you automatically by autoattacks from rogues, evokers channel, and bladestorm that also happens to grand immunity.
casters like mage and evokers kyte ferals easy.
also you cant clear slows in bear form without exiting it.
And last but not least, 90% of the abilities ignore armor.
Stop being foolish and play feral at above 2k and then we can speak again.
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That’s not the point. Feral doesn’t have a problem to kill people. Feral has a problem surviving. It’s a class that can crit people for 350k bites and has multiple stuns. You kill people in stunlocks. While those 2 can be tied to eachother, the point is that you don’t really permanently try to zug down some guy as Feral and stay in the fight, at least not with the current design. You wait your Stun DR and then send your damage, usually in combination with Cyclone.
Balance druid (Moonkin) has no meaningful cooldowns to press when his team is unable to assist him. For example, if the healer of a Moonkin gets pet stunned, into trap, into Strangulate by a DK/Hunter team, during the time the healer is crowd controlled, the Moonkin doesn’t have enough meaningful buttons to press to survive all that burst.
Aka Moonkin has nothing meaningful to trade as a def CD for burst windows where the Moonkin’s healer is in CC. Let’s compare this to a Warlock where in most situations Port + Dark pact + lining is enough. Compare this to an Ele Shaman - you can press your 40% dmg reduction wall, worst case you will have to burrow. Those 2 are on top of how you can move and stun the melees with static field totem, grounding totem healer’s CC, etc.
So while Feral would probably be more fine by increasing the duration of Survival insticts by say 4-5 seconds, Moonkin still has nothing to trade as a def CD when not receiving healing and getting bursted. Barkskin alone is not even close to enough.
If you compare Moonkin to Resto Druid, on top of all the broken healing a Resto druid can do on himself with instants if focused, the spec literally has a Bubble ability (tranquility).
If you don’t like it, don’t read it. Nobody is forcing you. You have a block and ignore function, use them, easy.
I pay and I demand and I complain. Why do you think they know Shadowlands was a bad expansion? Cause people complained. Surprise surprise you need feedback to know if people like or don’t like something that you did.
I and other ferals are giving our feedback and you for some reason think we shouldn’t cause you don’t like ferals or something.
Anyways welcome to my ignore list once more, I knew I had you there for a reason. You just toxic.
If you don’t like it, don’t play it. Nobody is forcing you. You have a “Create character” button and leveling up function, use them, easy.
False. I don’t care about feedback. Blizzard also doesn’t. I’m sorry you don’t understand the very basic things in this world. Negative comments are comments, requiring subscription. As long as you pay $, Blizzard is fine. They knew SL was a failure not because Jenovas noname didn’t like the expansion on forums, but because of NUMBERS of PARTICIPATION into REVENUE DROP. People are ALWAYS crying on forums, it was so even during the all-beloved Lich King. But the game is considered good. How so?
I don’t think you should not give feedback or something. I never said I don’t like ferals.
You’re attacking me in every thread I appear not because I don’t like ferals or something, but because I’m saying that Feral’s state is not what’s holding you back def.
idk why its a race who has it worse thought ?
you mean both feral and moonkin cant be defensively buffed or what are you implying ?
Also feral is statistically worse than boomie by large if we are to drive any comparisson even though i fail to understand why we are to do this ?
Also 350k bites is hard to believe im fully geared ive never done 350k bite, we have already debunked this many times.
The only way you can see a 350k is on a class that has increased stamina like warlocks and this extra dmg comes from the Ferocious Wound trait that removed 5% of the total health, a trait that is rarely run in 3s.
Ferocious Bite has 19% crit on max gear and feral has to have all bleeds plus berserk bleed up on the target for the Ferocious Bite to be increased by that much along with 50 extra energy by which time id ask why you didnt use defensives ? thats 5+ secs build up.
Also feral naturally takes 18%+ more physical dmg and wall is only active for a short time with a 3min cd.
Soo yeah… neither has it better in my eyes, though you can mass root and typhoon into mass root.
As you see i dont speak about Boomie because i dont play it, I suggest you do the same regarding Feral because youre clearly clueless.
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