Conflict & Strife R4

Hello fellow fleshlings o7,
Today i want to bring topic about obtaining Rank 4 conflict & strife, currently its only obtainable by getting 2400 rating in 2v2, 3v3 or RBG bracket. Before someone says its just visual thing i want to mention that its one of many requirement for getting “Phenomenal Cosmic Power” archievement, i totaly understand that its feat of feat of strength and its not for everyone but hear me out please.
This achievement will only require to get rank 4 of all of a role’s Essences that were released in the Rise of Azshara update (patch 8.2) that means the only “difficult” essences to obtain now are:

  • timing every mythic dungeon on +15 or higher,
  • killing azshara on mythic
  • 2400 rating in arena

every other essence is just pure grinding and rng (stopped counting mechagon paragon boxes after ~20… still no essence).

I want to talk about reducing requirements of obtaining R4 Conflict & strife to 2100 rating, heres why:

  • every other essences are really easy to obtain, timing +15 dungeons are no way close to getting 2400 rating in arena, even players without proper corruptions and correct stats are capable of doing +15 dungeon in time. azshara is obselote content already and because of corruptions shes super easy to beat for average normal/heroic raider (killed her with pug after 7 wipes without any VC), whats hard of getting azshara essence night now is finding ID with only azshara alive or gather enough players to fight her, nobody wants to go through previous bosses.

  • Its known that current state of pvp is in terrible shape, if you’re playing out of meta spec its most propably you ll never reach elite rank, you must be god tier player of your class to get 2400 in arena. corruptions made strong specs even more stronger because they scale better (DH locks hpaladins mages).

  • because of unbalance in pvp its much harder to find players to play with at 2100 rating, most players are scared of losing CR / dont find its fun playing in disadventage. in recent week i played only twice spending around 6-8h everyday on find anyone to play with arenas, im just wasting hours just to play few games and my CR just jump a little bit. i get getting 2400 is grind but i dont want it to happen in 2021.

  • With introduction of Echoes a lot of high rating players intentionaly drop their CR to smurf on lower CR to farm these echoes, its extremly toxic behaviour because they making a wall for ppl that legit trying to climb in ladder.

Also i think Eternal Palace should have skip to last boss same as jaina have or at least have low chance of dropping essence from mythic queen court or zaqul. (i saw it that magic skip before skip was introduced mr.gurgthock :slight_smile: ).

tl;dr, 2400 rating is way too difficult to obtain than any other r4 essences asking to lower requirements 2400->2100, add skip for azshara.

To everyone that made up here, thank you for reading my long post, heres potato.

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Why would anyone care ?
It’s not like we gonna use essences in shadowlands or any other expansion
i think every single rank 4 essence is worthless

[…]Before someone says its just visual thing i want to mention that its one of many requirement for getting “Phenomenal Cosmic Power” archievement[…]

achievement ll be gone with release of prepatch

I didn’t even know that exists no one prolly will in 2 months time anyways my take on this is blizzard will not reduce the requirement for the rank 4 essence but you can get 2.4 in 2s very easy it’s kinda free in my opinion.

thats the problem, its not that free if you’re playing out of meta spec and like i said if you add that its takes hours to find one player to play only few games,

some achievenents are supposed to be really hard, like this one. Deal with it.

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I usually lose because I’m bad, and not because I play out of meta arcane mage. I envy you. :slight_smile:

Only because you’re accustomed to PVE instead of PVP.

Imo it’s a lot easier than mythic n’zoth/azshara.

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That’s achivement is most stupid achivement designed by blizz so far. I despise it with passion - even many achivements hunter not even bothering with it all.

I have written off that achievement as something I will never be able to get.

I thought the PvP requirements for the mage tower recolour were bad but this is so far out of my reach. :laughing:

Sounds like a “git gud” issue to me.

I think you solved your own problem by saying :point_down: :point_down: :point_down:

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get 2400 and problem solved.

sounds like an achievement you need to invest time into

believe me, im puting a lot of time into that but waiting hours in queue/searching for group just to play few games or to get “sorry no sham” sucks, im just mad at myself that i picked this class to be my main but its already too late to change it

it’s not a class issue

hardly 2.1 by the time of this thread, and now out of nowhere got 2.4 in 2s even tho never passed 1.8 in 3s.

dunno about you guys but this smells like desperate carry to me.
i am sure it was worth it /s

so now you try to diminish my hard work just because i reached 2410 yesterday? had 2228 at the moment when i created this thread and played more than 120+ arenas (70 wins, 55 loses) in past three days giving my best and pushing myself to the limit just to reach elite rank. also, 3s are for guildies fun games and echo farm. but well who cares, im proud of myself and thats what matter for me.

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