Congrats on another "well made" melee redesign

i will be and so will be this post, anything that has melee on the topic will go 1000 reply :smiley:

that’s some clown fiesta comparisons you did right there. Especially comparing chaos nova to leg sweep. Also if only blur was as good as barkskin and was usable in CC.

Literally the same spell.

In terms of what exactly? Just because its aoe stun as leg sweep? Are you just listing concepts? With that logic you can say that roll and mage blink is same since both moves you from point A to point B.

can they displacement back with roll like mage can with blink, not same :slight_smile:

chaos nova is 45sec cd 2 sec aoe stun and leg sweep is 1min cd 3 sec aoe stun, could say they are pretty close i guess, only difference that i can dispel the dh stun

Displacement is different skill. Blink doesn’t have displacement backed in. There is a skill called Flying serpert kick, so we can call it displacement as you can use it to go back.

what do you think of his closing argument? should we remove dh from the game?

i think we could nerf it so it feels they dont exist, its way too easy for any child to play :smiley:

No, DH was original WC3 class, blizzard just performed poor when they were implementing it in game. It isn’t as easy as he is claiming tho. Not this days.
Also people really love to just whine here, providing 0 constructive arguments. I yet to see anyone proving how DH got tankier with rework, when you lost fodder and gained a talent, which noone will take over MS. Gained Netherwalk, which DH had before anyway. And netherwalk isn’t even as good as was fodder.

we could spare them, let them still exist for dungeons and such but nerf them enough so they cant just go brrrrrrr with the dmg in pvp, face on keyboard and so on

i played 3s yday with dh from lfg who i cant link of tos reasons but guy literally had 11 seasons challenger and one 2.8xp glad middle of legion and challenger after so its clearly bought character into the account

guy didnt use single imprison or fear or darkness or blur nor he ever kicked a single thing, and none of it matter cause its dmg was so overtuned he did like 30% more compared to arms friend i played with.

i were smiling at the dh whole time watching the guy do literally nothing and yet we win every game cause its dmg is stupid lol

i have bit of an idea how this season will go with the dh players who actually know thing or two lol, dh cc toolkit is as disruptive now as demo locks

Well, that’s a classic scenario with every reworked spec this days.

yep i hate it so much but what can we do except keep talking of it lol

i share fear with op that this season will be copy of df beginning with dh

S1 begginging was shadow priest + assa rog meta. Not sure how dh was even close to this.

wait till u see dh,aug,x :smiley:

i guess 3v3 meta is something like dh+aug, rmp, mage+lock and bm+ret and then the warrior men with fws

i play 2s with usual comps and any dh i see the goal is not let them play and if playing on rshaman self then could play with dh too now that its stupid op lol thats all its good for

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I played against one in 2s today aroun 2200-2300 mmr. He outdamaged me but he didn’t really impress. Maybe it’s because he played with the meme healer - Disc. Who the hell still believes that Disc is going to work finally?

Disc at the moment is like these cars that were tuned in “Pimp my ride” on MTV. They just put as many screens and useless flashy crap in them to the stage that they couldn’t really drive. Same thing happens with Disc - this spec has flashy toys but it’s not working on the fundemental level. You’re not going to outheal burst with Attonment and once you actually have to heal you go oom. Blizzard please give up on Attonment being the main source of healing for Disc. It’s not Fistweaver - people can actually interrupt you. Not to mention that damage to heal playstyle is actually toxic if you look at Fistweaver.

I would welcome a buff to Fury. Buff dual wield frost as well :dog:

i guess you missed dh start of df then, they were pretty wild to put it mild

currently any instanced pvp has 5 million dh in it, its the fotm now, easy and overtuned is a bad oversight and attracts the people like the smell of manure flies

whoever designed demon hunters and rogues this patch should jump off a cliff

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I played df on start and spriest was N1 dps, not dh. It was N1 awc comp too, till spriest got nerfed. Not sure where exactly you are bringing that info, but if you can provide any source would be nice. I personally don’t recall DH being N1 dps at any point. Yes they were doing good dmg and fodder was OP, but both factors got nerfed.

Ok, but against a demon lock i can do about 90k dps with my Survival hunter too, just dropping death chakram, explosive shot, wildfire bomb :smiley:

Everytime we got a demon the zoo is what chokes the dmg