Honestly the biggest barrier to wow PVP right now is the gear…
Yes gearing is EASY
Yes gearing is pretty mindless
BUT
IT’S NOT FUN BEING 20-30% LESS DAMAGE
IT’S NOT FUN TO BE 20-30% LESS HEALTH
IT’S NOT FUN HAVING TO FARM HOURS!!!
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true true and very true,
me and my friend playing MANY alts. but ffs! greens forever! buy conquest boxes for that class. turns out 20% gear is still green, and in the end realise is not the class u want to play… so switch again. another class. hee FULL GREEN AGAIN!! 
So cut out everything from RPGMMO and leave just fighting part? Basically create character fully geared and do just running and fighting.
Play some streetfighers , mortal combat, dota.
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Man you should get off the forum and invest the time you PAYED to play the game and maybe
by tomorrow you will be fully geared.
Meh i dont mind gearing as a whole n while you´re “in sync” its not bad at all, taking a break n coming back to the game mid season n trying to catch up in conquest is terrible however. The main reason its terrible is because the fastest way to earn conquest is ranked gamemodes, where everyone except you will already be full conquest.
Substantially increasing conquest gains from random bgs or hell even PvP world quests would make it alot less painful. I dont know why so many people seem to think gearing should be painful for the game to be considered an mmorpg.
Outside of daily wins no unrated activity is worth grinding, how is that not against the principle of an mmorpg in the first place? “daily win” is mobile game content. Increase the baseline conquest per win in random bg to whatever the current daily win is at n let people grind it n most of the problems would be solved.
Doesn’t take hours to farm lol. Conq cap has been lifted well early, yet people are still complaining?
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You can save your honor and transfer it to alts for the world pvp set, it’s not that far below and buy boxes for conquest if you have anything to spare.
You will also get conquest that you can transfer if you play a healer from time to time, almost instant queue and it’s good to see things from a role you don’t main.
The brawl is a great place to get both honor and conquest at the same time and unlike random bg and arena you don’t feel as handicapped in greens, faster conquest than losing in arenas. The vault also gets capped from brawls so if you feel inferior it’s a better place to be.
There is stuff that can be done.
Try it. Without 0 conquest boxes. Try to get full conquest gear. I would like to know how much time u needed for that.
I play dozen of alts. I am refusing now to try a mage for fun. Since hes full green and i am out of conquests even i play ALLOT of shuffles and 2s.
Atleast make conquest shared across the characters. Not just some random stupid boxes. Wich can contain 4x same item with bad luck
Not much time at all. Just spammed arena with a friend, and did weeklies. It really doesn’t take long at all.
I expected that reply. Defending the system? Cause its best ever been?
Its total outdated.
Go with a full green and try to get max gear with conquest. I am sure you are not finished by this evening. And sure tomorow u wont be finished either.
I have always a healer friend. So never have to wait. Gear difrence. Shouldnt be any difrence in pvp. But thats my opinion.
Spending a whole day off work on a green class to try to match full geared conquests people ( not talking bout embelisms yet )
And try to figure out if its your playstyle. Cant compare green vs epic. To much difrence.
And then you realise after 2 days+ farming u wasted all that time since class doesnt fit you afterall.
This can get you burned out of the game or pvp completely
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You see, that’s the problem. A lot of people expect everything for little effort now. I’m defending the system because the gearing system has been the best it’s been for a while.
I did that, and didn’t take long at all, like I said.
Seems like a you problem. I’ve geared all my alts so quickly because yano, it’s easy and quick. I really don’t understand why so many are finding it long. You probably aren’t doing the right things… You expect to be fully geared instantly… Go put some work in! You can’t get everything given to you instantly.
You can send over conq boxes from alts / mains. You get a lot of conq from weeklies. You can farm honor by, yano, playing the game… You can do pretty well in full greens, and gives you a higher ilvl for PvP. I mean Blizzard have already made things a lot easier for us, yet it’s still not good enough lol
You see, that’s the problem. A lot of people expect everything for little effort now. I’m defending the system because the gearing system has been the best it’s been for a while.
even ur blind to the fact even *its the best. its still bad. there are so many things to improve. but people like you are so blind since this feels the best. its still bad in my opinion. and things going to change in the war within, so u prob wont be defending this system again. LoL
I did that, and didn’t take long at all, like I said.
Are you for real… i checked wich characters you have, you only have 2 classes max geared. Not really much expirience u have with the system do you? Good with these times. u can people caught on lies. and u act like u have 10 alts. u only have 2 classes geared max. you’r funny guy
Seems like a you problem. I’ve geared all my alts so quickly because yano, it’s easy and quick. I really don’t understand why so many are finding it long. You probably aren’t doing the right things… You expect to be fully geared instantly… Go put some work in! You can’t get everything given to you instantly.
You can send over conq boxes from alts / mains. You get a lot of conq from weeklies. You can farm honor by, yano, playing the game… You can do pretty well in full greens, and gives you a higher ilvl for PvP. I mean Blizzard have already made things a lot easier for us, yet it’s still not good enough lol
Geared all my alts? like i said, caught u on the lie. u have 2 classes max geared. u fail here. i am doing shuffles ALLOT and if u check my classes. i cant keep up with this gearing. even i wanna try all classes. takes just to much TIME! hate this system. I wanna have some fun on alt classes. but then u get completely outgeared on 1800 mmr with full epic.
The game should not be balanced around people who play with dozen of characters or want to gear up fast because they don’t want to put in the work and consider playing the game equal to farming. Just go play LoL.
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People like you lack the braincells to acquire conquest quickly. 
Because I don’t want to play others? And actually I have 4, but you can’t seem to count.
Enjoy crying about a problem that isn’t there.
Facts.
This is a endless discussion. My opinion vs yours or others. Everyone thinks they are right.
Atleast i said how i think about it and proven u are a liar. Still u defend it haha. Best system then its ever been. Right.
Blind to see there are 100 things to improve.
GL this season.
Proven? What proof.
How is it an “immature comment”?
You make 0 sense dude.
Waaa waaa waaaa I can’t instantly gear my alts in full conq, waaaaa.
waaa waaa waaaa I can’t instantly gear my alts in full conq, waaaaa.
This is unmature.
Doesn’t take hours?
Here some maths for you BOY!
9675 conquest requirement for full gear + 2 crafted items
2v2 = 110 conquest per win
with a 51% win ratio (this is your character win ratio) would mean 180 games
Average 2v2 game is possible 3 minutes at low CR including the 1 minute start up? that becomes 538 minutes which is 9 hours of SOLID arena game play, not including finding a partner in LFG, doing anything else in the game, or any deviation from a 3 minute window.
This is absurd when you combine the learning curve of classes, the vast amount of addons and toxic environment pvp is.
Honestly some times I think people want PVP to die at the same of being able to say they farmed gear because it’s an MMO.
People should be able come into work and jump straight into PVP… Just like they should PVE. Now PVE is a leveling system with Keys and progressive raids in which Gear is a huge part of killing a monster. Gear should not be a huge part of competitive PVP when the rewards are titles, cosmetics and feeling of defeating another human being.
also bare in mind, I’ve not even added the HONOR FARM INTO THIS!!
Gearing an ALT is VERY QUICK if you have 10,000 conquest and 15,000 honor stored on a main. OUTSIDE OF THIS, IT’S DREADFUL!!!
Why should I have to gear up for PvE when I want to be equal in my competition for the top? Why should I have to do raids or high m+ to compete on equal terms with gear?
Why should I have to do this on several alts? Why cant I just have max ilvl from the start?
When I come back home, instead of doing +2 keys I should instantly be able to jump into my prefered difficulty. Since im being gatekept by gear from the start.
Solution since ppl dont want to put in any kind of effort to get any kind of gear?
Remove all gear from WoW. Put everyone on max ilvl. Equal for everyone! 
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Bro that is nothing.
Before Blizz made it super casual getting full arena gear needed something like 3 months at top rating without skipping a single daily win in bg… And people hardly complained.
Conquest has nothing do to with “jumping into pvp”. Conquest is the end point.
You are mixing two different things. If you look at how much time it takes to get into pvp with a full honor set, you will see it’s nothing.
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