According to the laws of the internet I now have two options:
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Your mother.
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Tell me a different suggestion then?
I will combine these two and say:
ask your mother for suggestions.
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Well. I think it’s important to consider that not everyone looking to RP in this manner of very, ope, sociable, roleplay on tap way is necessarly looking for a character to be deveolped, not everyone is seeking to roleplay a narrative, some people are only looking for an outlet to socialise as something other than themselves. I also think it’s quiet shortsighted to assume people who RPing a character without hardships are doing so as a self-insert. To add a point about knowing if someone is a self insert or a character, I’d be careful with that, a few lines of RP and a TRP aren’t a far way to go to prove this character is a digital replication of the person behind the screen, it’s difficult to know that without knowing who that person is. That’s my feeling atleast.
I honestly don’t consider that to be role-play then.
Just my two cents.
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Why is that?
real question is “why does that matter?”
Probably because if there’s no story being crafted it is, as the OP said, essentially just the equivalent of socializing on Second Life.
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A real character is someone that goes through developments, as a real person does. A character, in any story, will go through any number of developments major or minor. Even the lesser, or supplemental background characters are real, breathing people that will go through some level of event in their lives.
If your ‘avatar/character’ is literally just you, chatting about/etc, that’s about as much role-play as what we’re doing right now. Which again, isn’t role-playing, I’m pretty sure? I don’t design a fictional entity, or do fictional world building to incorporate non-fictional entities and worlds.
This conversation is starting to make me think that I, Mion, am just another character with no ties to the lore or my typist’s own ego. Now I’m having an existential melt down. See what you’ve done? You’ve broke the system. YOU’VE BROKEN THE SYSTEM.
But seriously, if I want that type of ‘role-play’, I’ll go to IMVU or Second Life.
It’s not what I come to WoW for.
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But you don’t need an on-going narrative to create character depth. You’re character can a history, a life story, a set of traits and beliefs seperate from your own, you don’t need an ongoing narrative to create these things, andadditional depth and developmemmnt can come from simpler place, like speaking or sociakising with others.
Then that’s a part of their narrative? I’d imagine? Exactly what you’ve just described?
Nobody said that ‘Social RP’ isn’t narrative building. At least, nobody but the OP.
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The inability of AD RPers to look beyond their own conceptions strikes again.
Because you couldn’t possibly RP a character in order to explore view points, opinions and beliefs different to your own if there is no tension.
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I never said that, lol.
Are you high?
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I disagree with the phrasing, though I don’t think we differ on the intent. Not everyone seeks to roleplay a heroesque or dramatic narrative perhaps, but all characters have a story and all characters must have goals, big or small, in order to be believable and engaging (for the player and others around them).
It could be as small as wanting a new fishing pole because the wood in your old one cracked or as dramatic as needing to rescue a kidnapped relative/friend and looking for people to help with that. Though vastly different both scenarios are narratives and narratives are essential for there to actually be roleplay, imho.
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Role-playing is just a group of players (or even one single player?) assuming the role of a character and placing him in a specific setting. As a result it will necessarily create a narrative, in the sense that there is a series of events that occur one after the other and that are connected together through a series of meanings, but then the term “narrative” acquires such a pervasive meaning that it is ever-present, hence it loses any directional purpose. For example:
Warrior A takes a beer at the local human pub. He likes the beer and comments that it is a good beer. Then a mage swoops in and offers him a conjured dwarven beer. It is a much better beverage, the warrior thinks. The two begin to speak about beers and become good friends.
There is a story, however it is collateral, in the sense that the players’ purpose is (likely) mostly to socialize. Yet it is clearly role-playing.
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Struggling to keep up with everyone. Aye I think you are right and my phrasing was off. I think to me what I meant as narrative means playing out a story of certain beats. And that is not something I think is strictly needed in a characters RP, or a characters deveolpment. I think some people build fine characters out of just socialising among the community.
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yeah my bad Mion, my inability to look beyond my own conceptions struck again I guess
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I have to be honest aswell. I don’t even know the last person I saw that played a character that had no hardship and was allways happy. If anything I see much more of the opposite, characters that are burdened so heavily with excessive hardships that they can’t do anything except sulk, brood, or spend all day talking about the horrid nature of all their hardships.
It’s like I said before. The OP’s rant is devoid of humour and is mostly just a rant designed to pander to an audience that’ll nod and go ‘okay that sort of makes sense but lol so poorly presented’. Even self-inserts aren’t that prevalent, and are mostly found in Lion’s Rest. Watch out for those bulges, yo’.
OwO
Sorry, couldn’t resist.
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Just to respond to your earlier query. I’d never ask my mother for advice.
She’s BDRP.
I’m starting to get the impression that me avoiding Second Life was one of the few things I did right during my youth.
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