done nothing less than literally have his point proven by people supposedly trying to derail the thread but instead only managing to show what an ‘AD nolife specimen’ looks like, ala ‘someone that really puts too much emphasis on themselves vs. a sh//y hobby’.
Also damn, too busy ranking up in Hollow Arena to notice this thread. Ps: I agree with the OP
I always roll 100 at DM’ed events. ![:muscle:](https://d1bg94bbsh66ji.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/muscle.png?v=6" ":muscle:")
do you use loaded dice? or /roll 100? no one is that lucky.
no one. aims laser sight at u
it’s called being a good roleplayer omg… ![:man_facepalming:](https://d1bg94bbsh66ji.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/man_facepalming.png?v=6" ":man_facepalming:")
Edgelord Version of Stormwind and an ERP Hub.
Glorious recommendations!
Road to El Dorado is top tier RP, if only AD was good enough to understand its 200 IQ jokes
I find OP’s post to be subjective nonsense at best, feels you are trying to speak with some intelectual authority on the matter that isn’t earned. You’re stance basically boils down to “If a character isn’t strugling, it’s not a character, you’re not rping right.”
It’s no issue of them rping wrong or right, what you mean to say is they aren’t rping in a way you personally find acceptable. A character does not need to be entrenched in struggles or negatives to have depth, meaningful interactions can be made without it, and what is more, people can indeed create characters that are seperate from their personal selves to socialise with.
Seems to me OP that you desire to find a certain kind of RP. The onus is on you to find it, not expect everyone else around you to change how they RP to fit your sensebilities. The ‘noticeable problem’ you speak of doesn’t exist.
It’s really more akin to 'if your character is never struggling, it’s not a character."
Which is true.
Subjective? Well yes, definitely. Nonsense? Certainly not. If you critically look at what he’s saying, then he makes a few fair points. From my perspective, he’s mostly ripping into Second Life-esque characters that are notorious on Argent Dawn for their pot smoking, baby bump and mp3 player wearing habits.
It’s more like, if the individual in question is never struggling, they’re not a real person. Which yeah, is pretty true, regardless of how the OP puts it.
unless your character is in the grind don’t talk to me
only mary sues shine
Sorry to say this, but social rp is the only thing I’m interested in. Conflicts or plots that involve heavy problem solving are not to my interest.
If that is “socializing online” to you, well then, sounds like a you-problem to me.
Tbh, true or not, its a bit asinine to ask others to adhere to this. After working for 8,9,10, whatever hours a day, I also generally don’t feel the need to RP a character who is going through whatever trauma or potentially interesting tension / harsh situation, moreso when the setting kind of allows for the fantasy-esque non-gritty, sterile playground that some people might envision certain capitals as.
Granted this can be overdone (which is what the OP might be on about) but I highly doubt that’s the case.
I’ve looked at it critically. I just don’t agree, people are able to play happy, care free with depth. I don’t think there is an inherient need for hardships to be part of a character for it be considerd valid for RP, that’s the notion I found to be nonsense.
I think people in this thread are missing the nuance involved.
There’s a big difference between ‘social rp’, god I hate labelling things. In my mind, there’s just ‘role-play’ - and of course, ‘self-insert RP’, which is mostly what the OP is ripping into, imo.
Most of the people that’re guilty of what he’s describing don’t frequent the forums tbh. It is just a rant that panders to the masses, sadly devoid of humour.
Idk. The distinction to me between someone role-playing as a character and someone role-playing as themselves is pretty clear. Sure, it’s still ‘sort of role-playing’ but it’s not really, but then again actually, I guess certain actors play as themselves also? Idk, it’s weird, but each their own.
It doesn’t boil down to a case of ‘drama’ or ‘carefree happy go lucky’ at the end of the day.
Just character development. That defines a ‘character’, I believe? Idk. Maybe I’ve been doing it wrong for years.
AD RPers just have an easier time socializing when the social interaction is mediated by virtual avatars.
Don’t overcomplicate things by adding tension (the tension follows naturally)
I’ll just add that I don’t encounter a lot of these people outside of the lower Eastern Kingdoms.
A few have encroached on realm campaigns recently, which is just urrggh to me.
Leave my GDRP alone, damn it.
If you, as a role-player, are not providing a character to the community that encourages constructive interaction, even if it is only small like a baker telling a tough-looking fellow that she’s having problems with her father-in-law’s ill-health, then you aren’t role-playing. You’re just socializing online. Your character is the equivalent of a SecondLife avatar.
I would love to agree with you but the OP’s initial post was rather clear cut about the matter. If I log on with my character when he doesn’t have an identity crisis or whatever would prompt his character to interact with mine (not necessarily help) then I’m just wasting space and socializing.
Tbh to me if there are 20+ RPers merely socializing for more than 5 minutes then it’s already a decent environment without any injection of drama, but I guess I mellowed due to age.
Not going to read through every comment on this thread but I think I get the gist of it from skimming so I’ll add my own thoughts. People have very different reasons for coming to AD to RP and the amount of effort people put in to playing a fully defined character varies greatly because a lot of people just don’t have the time available to invest in it. It is why large cliques form such as the ‘north rp’ vs ‘south rp’ thing, If you are playing to just socialise using the world’s lore rather than going out there to get deeper into the character (especially the flaws) you’ll likely spend a lot of time around Stormwind or nearby as a socialite character like a noble or something however as there is less random RP in the north you’ll find that most that RP there have put a lot of time and thought into character flaws and that does cause the tension it seems the thread creator wants. There are obviously some exceptions to the rule.
TLDR: depending on the zone you’ll likely find different degrees of people willing to put the effort in to develop flaws and tensions with their characters.
I’ve already looked at his post piece by piece and I’ve just taken the decent-ish bits from it rather than throw it all in the trash and throw insults at him. I touch on similar topics myself.
Honestly, there’s no point in even discussing the whole ‘if your character doesn’t go through immense trauma every five minutes, they’re not a character’ because it’s inherently fallacious, nonsensical or just sheer over exaggeration.
If we’re going to continue the thread though, we could discuss and talk about people’s role-playing styles, preference and various locals to give the OP a fresh perspective while productively enlightening ourselves.
-shrug-