Listen, it’s not a matter of being mad “cause they fail”. I have multiple tools to counter it and it still doesn’t make it okay for it to exist. It’s a completely senseless ability. No ability should have one-shot potential, no matter how “counterable” it is
You’re talking about druids, right? Because that’s what happens most of the time on the 2K bracket
Why not? I mean we have abilities which exist and can 2 tap you, which means you die faster than in a convoke.
Compared to?
Yet we do have them and some of them have no counter.
Ye, tell this 3k+ r1 guy who couldn’t land a cnonvoke a single time.
Which should also be looked into.
The game in general. No ability should have one-shot potential
Such as?
It’s a 3K druid… Which means he knows what he’s doing, so he doesn’t fit into your mantra, because he will win without recurring to retarded gimmicks like Convoke is.
You can not compare it go the in general because if you do, convoke is more than balanced. That’s why I was asking, what did you compare it to in order to make this statement?
Ret for example? Yes, he is pressing “more buttons” (if he didn’t macro it) but the options to stop him are 100% less than you can stop convoke or it’s absolutely zero for most comps if he is doing that during the bubble.
Exactly, and this guy couldn’t pull a single convoke off (in several matches) vs a guy who has ~1k less experience than him. What does this fact tell us about convoke?
Idk i never play 2s almost but for 3s in general they bait stuff and cast at max range to get the most value.
In 3s boomies can be stressful for sure, that’s why I am not playing 3s. I can at least somewhat control my mate in 2s but controlling 2 people in 3s is pretty much impossible.
No, convoke is not “more than balanced”. Far from it. Again, just because it’s counterable it doesn’t make the ability itself have its current damage potential.
Rets are broken in general. Convoke is a single ability.
Convoke is broken and unecessary. People need to play around it, and forget about everything else cause otherwise they get one-shot from 1 button press. Besides, the druids still have the whole baseline toolkit, which includes their major CDs/Bursts
You kinda need to make an argument after such statements. Saying it’s not balanced and it’s far from it without literally a single argument?
There is nothing else, that’s why convoke is so good 
Counter convoke and it’s a free win.
Playing convoke you have a 3 min “burst” which is basically 3 bites, that’s the whole burst, it won’t kill anyone who has more than 2 braincells left. And you have literally no sustain. Whole NF spec is basically designed around convoke.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1001546584?filter=archives&sort=time
05:21:00 one of my first matches vs Snupy. He is boosting some enhancer and I am playing with a friend who just came back and literally doesn’t know half the spells and pops random stuff (like bop in this match) or DR stuns for no reason etc…
We basically only won because Snupy was playing NF, he had no (sustain) damage, no burst… just convoke and it’s a joke, too easy to stop.
I already did. Its damage potential is simply too high. I’ve said countless times abilities with one-shot potential should not exist
Lol! It’s a free-win against tryhard druids who can’t do anything beyond using Convoke. Are you one of those druids?
Convoke is a burst, on top of another burst you have baseline. Except, your baseline burst requires you to use your brain and multiple abilities, and isn’t one ability that one-shots your target.
Well, it’s damage is literally 0 if you react. The potential is absolutely irrelevant vs reality, don’t you think? We are not fighting bots, we are fighting actual people who can react to specific skills, such as convoke.
It’s free win because NF has nothing to offer except for convoke. This was proven in twitch vid just fine I’d say. He is like top 5 ferals.
We don’t have other burst, we only do have berserk which requires a legendary in order to make this 3 min cd an actual burst cd and it’s still poop compared to everyone elses burst cd.
Actually you just macro it and spam 2 buttons. There is no rocket science behind it.
Anyway, I showed you one of the best ferals who literally couldn’t pull off a single convoke vs an average team who was perma failing.
People can say convoke is op af all day long, it doesn’t change the fact that literally every comp has so many utilities to easily stop it, it’s not even fun. People are just too lazy (or too dumb?) to keep 1 ability + 1 trinket to stop convoke. It’s easy af, even tho we failed here (we both trinketed cause my pala ignored my call) we still won.
Your goal isn’t to ‘’ control ‘’ people, they have at some point to play better to push =D
I got what you mean, that’s why most of people play 2s, your mistakes aren’t that deadly as in 3s.
Ye I wish my mates would actually consider this option
Unfortunately the data says no 
Rogue does not kill anyone in a global if you have 226 gear.
Even if you don’t, actually. Fast, yes, a global, no, mathematically not possible ever since they nerfed that idiotic meme shadowstrike build.
That would work in perfect scenario,but to all people playing without some kind of notification when certain spells have been used,its pure and literal hell.
They oneshot you moment they leave stealth.
I cant remember the last time i died to convoke because i have those addons and when playing vs boomie,im doing heavy LOS,but sadly oneshot can happen even with all of that.
And i can fully understand non experienced people having issues with the convoke.It takes time and practice to develop reflexes to press defensives exact same moment you see/hear convoke.Sometimes even rank 1 players fail to do it.
Its all about practice,especially considering most people are clickers.
Yes for sure, tbh I have no idea how you cannot get globaled if you play without weak aura.
I used to play with almost 0 addon but these days you cna get randomly killed by so much things hard to noticed, even high rated players play with addon (except pikaboo but his brain is like a detector xD).
this is a funny one. my priest used to die to this until we started playing around it, then gradually convoke became more and more rare until hardly anybody we faced was even playing it. and now most recently it has come back and we lost to pressing it from stealth. big part of convoke is the surprise factor for sure. when people expect it and play around it it kind of blows.
yup. i think the crux of the problem with convoke is the extremely variable power level depending on how well the people playing against the boomkin play around it, which also naturally makes it really silly at lower ratings. i think it is impossible to balance for pvp in its current state. i don’t see how you can keep it competitive against people who play around it while not making it oppressive against people who don’t.
do you stop it immediately? pretty bad spell. threat neutralised immediately with only an interrupt or incap or something. goes on cooldown without really doing anything. are you a little slow to stop it? you’re dead. cool.
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