Corpse camping

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Hey there people,

There’s something that has been bothering me for quitte some time and so i wanted to get it off my chest. Also, by no means do i mean to be offensive in anyway, if i am, i appologize in advance.

Anyways,
I’ve been playing World of Warcraft for over 10 years now.
I’ve joined after “The Burning Crusade” but before “Wrath of the Lich King” was released. I took a break here and there with 1 of the times being away for like 1 year.

Now, not so long ago, i hit level 120 on this Demon Hunter.
Ofcourse, the first thing i’m trying to do is gear up. Some would do it by doing dungeons others by doing (world) quests. I myself decided to do it by (world) quest mainly because i wanna progress through the storylines.

Now, generally i am a nice and helpful guy. I am the kind that is willing to lend a hand here and there when and if i can no matter what faction someone is on.
But earlier, i was doing a quest and out of the blue, i’ve got attacked and killed 2 times already by a warlock (which i won’t mention the name from due to the so-called “name and shame” rule") that has a way higher ilevel and amount of HP then i do. Now i do understand there’s this so-called “Warmode” and to be honest, i don’t mind being killed either really. But after he killed me the 2nd time, he decided to camp my corpse. So i waited and waited and after like 45 minutes, he was still there so i decided to log out of the game.

I mean, to put it simple: Getting killed is 1 thing but corpse camping for atleast 45 minutes straight is another

Then i looked for the Terms of Service to see if i could find anything about regarding being killed and all and what i found was the following:

Harassment, “griefing,” abusive behavior or chat, conduct intended to unreasonably undermine or disrupt the Game experiences of others, deliberate inactivity or disconnecting, and/or any other activity which violates Blizzard’s Code of Conduct or In-Game Policies.

Now this got me thinking:
If you’re killing someone out of nowhere multiple times already
and then decide to camp the corpse for at least 45 minutes straight…
is’nt that technically something that can be considered “Griefing” / “Harassment”
I mean, in a way, it disrupts the Game experience of others like it says in the terms, right?

Simply put, and i’ll say it again: I don’t mind being killed really. But getting corpse camped for atleast 45 minutes straight… i’m really?!

Sure, you could say: Turn off Warmode and sure, i could do that.
But i still believe that this is well against their own (Blizzard’s terms)

Also, i contacted Blizzard about it by the means of in-game tickets,
but pretty much any of the GM’s that responded to it (which is 3 by now)
all decided to throw it on “Warmode”

But what do u people think?
Was i in my right? Do you think that, looking at that term i mentioned above, camping someone’s corpse for atleast 45 minutes straight is against what that term says?

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Good job wasting the GM’s time.

If you can’t accept the consequences of WM without crying then turn it off. You have that option.

This is literally “waa, someone killed me in WM” - its kinda working as intended.

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lmk your current location

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@Dejarous
While i do respect people’s opinion…
With that, you’re not being very constructive at all

Have u read the full post?
including that term i also mentioned in my post above?

I just wanna know if they have a term like that,
something like what i experienced is against that term?

@Nivmie
“lmk your current location”?

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The difference between normal gameplay and harassment has a HUUUGE grey area insofar as what one player construes as harassment would be seen as perfectly legit gameplay to another.

Is that Horde guy tagging and killing those mobs I need for a quest harassing me ? Or is he doing the same quest and needs the kills too ? After all he’s affecting my game in a negative way.

Corpse camping has been in the game since day one. It could be argued that he’s doing it to prevent you from affecting his friends that don’t want you killing them, so, legit gameplay ? Or Harassment ? hard to tell really.

You turn WM on you consent to be attacked by the other side, that’s it basically.

Putting in multiple ticket about the same thing could be seen as a form if harassment, you’re wasting the GM’s time where he could be dealing with another players issue.

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You have played 10 years on a PvE server with PvP disabled? This is normal and not even close to griefing.

You could just have released in a location he can’t see and hearthstoned out, do a few dungeons and come back.

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@Bagdawg

I was working on getting my class hall mount. I was at the part where i had to do world quest to tick off that part of the achievement (Breaching the Tomb) and so i ended up having 1 world quest on the Broken Shore left at that moment, which was battling a pet master inside a cave at Vengeance point. And when i was done, out of the blue he attacked me and killed me twice (which is, as i said before) fine, but he/she then decided to camp my corpse for atleast 45 minutes straight.

At this point, i would consider it “disrupting the Game Experience”

@Animeweeb
I’m almost perfectly fine with your comment. and i do accept people’s opinion. Except it could do without the "Bro… you are such a bad loser man…

So i would appreciate it if you’d delete that part
Because that was’nt neccesary and not very constructive at all.

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Sorry, I’m just hostile by nature.

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As with all these sorts of things, I’m sure if we heard the other side of the story we would get a very different picture.

Regardless of what you where doing or why, my comments still hold.

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@Animeweeb
No problem. Appology accepted

@Bagdawg
Funny thing is though, i was talking to some guildies about it.
At least one of them said he use to do it to but he got a temporary suspension on his account for it.

But i guess there always have be some a-holes around.
It’s sad really but that’s the reality i guess.

Also:
I still believe that if you have to corpse camp someone for at least 45 minutes straight…
You have to be pretty damn bored

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Your own fault , all you had to do was ressurect at the graveyard with res sickness and you would have gotten away instead of wasting time for 45 minutes

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@Haurm-Draenor

Well, i walked back to my corpse and waited for atleast 45 minutes but i nthe mean time, while on my screen i was back at my corpse, i was doing something else in the meantime. So i don’t think i exactly “wasted” that time

You still have to be pretty damn bored tho if you’re going to corpse camp someone for atleast 45 minutes straight though

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You used to get a warning for it back before Warmode was a thing. But it had to be excessive, and I really mean excessive with no chance of fighting back. Think like, a lvl 10 player being camped by two max levels, one at his corpse and another at the graveyard so the lowbie can’t ress anywhere, and repeating that for several hours to a point where logging out and logging back in a few hours later they’re still waiting for you.

Since Warmode, they’ve kind of gone with “all bets are off” approach since it’s off by default and you have to explicitly opt-in at a specific location. I’d wager real corpse-camping like my example would still get punished though, but who knows.

What happened to you is what was just normal on PvP servers before, especially at higher levels like you were. You just got lucky to never experience it before. It’s not like you were lvl 5 unable to do quests for a week because a raid of people kept killing all players and npcs 24h/day for a week straight. You had 45 minutes to kill, the other guy had 45 minutes to kill… it’s unfortunate but not all that uncommon or particularly disruptive, I’m sorry to say.
I don’t like campers but I’ve always just ressed at the spirit healer and hearthstoned away, or called other people to help me. One camper can’t stop me alone, and every time I’ve asked nicely at least a couple of people have come help me out.

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Exactly what I said , you should have used res sickness , its a 10 min waste but at least you would have been on your way after that.

Also a lot of people are extremely bored in this expansion so its understandable imo

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Corpse camping is relic of the past - some people find weird pleasure in it. Its waste of time for both players. Imo it’s griefing but blizz won’t care about that bcoz they have more pressing issues than that.

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@ Keyur

Finally someone that seems to see it as i am.
It’s like… they have certain rules and regulations and terms and such,
but they don’t enforce 'em. Well, at least some of them.

Oh well, like i said earlier: i guess some people always have to be a-holes i guess
It’s sad but that’s the reality we live in.

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Or they’re just bored because this expansion is pretty boring

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You know, i’ve been thinking.
Generally i am a nice and helpful, a kind person really
But seeing as Blizzard does’nt seem to care about it…
I am considering that maybe i should start doing it myself.
I mean, i could always go to places like “Hellfire Peninsula, Outlands” and take it out on lower levels as well that have Warmode enabled and if they log onto some character from the same faction i’ve killed them on and started whispering me about it, i could always say “then turn off warmode” right?

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Hell I think everyone has done that at least once simply because you’re bored , as long as you have warmode on its allowed so why not do it ?

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That lock did an awesome job of traumatising you. Have you considered reporting him to the Hague for warcrimes?

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