So it took blizzard 3 patches in legion to realise legendary item rng was awful and we needed a way to target out bis legendaries. Now we are in BFA where corruptions are much more impactful than legendaries items. Again with no real way to target them. Or even a real way to farm them. Instead just as with legendaries we are stuck farming endless PvP and m+ hopeing the rng God will be kind to us. And again we are in position. Where some people have lots and lots of bis corruptions, more than they can equip and others who are doing just as much content have effectively useless corruptions or so very few of them they canât even use the nzoth raid corruption azerite traits.
I donât understand how you have not bought forward the lessons of the legendary system. Are we really in a position where you need to re learn that rng tied to 30% or more of your damage is not a good thing.
Blizzard you were looking for feed back on this system. And fundamentally the system is fun. But the aqisition is a nightmare. Please give us a way to either target specific corruptions or give us a way to re corrupt gear that has a tearable corruption / no corruption. And please for the love of all creation remember your past and the lessons you learnt through previous iterations of your loot system.
This week I was dismayed to loot a useless corrupted item from my m+ cache while I watch one of my friends loot a rank 3 inifnate stars on both his healer main and fire mage alt⌠and then opened his PvP chest and looted a rank 2 echoing void. Meanwhile Iâm stuck useing a rank 1 versatility proc. I understand that you like your loot to feel awesome and for there to be a real wow factor when you get a good item. But the inverse of that is true too. When you get a bad item it is upsetting and when those items can make you up to 30% less useful at your role than someone else. It does make you question what even is the point of being there. At the mooment my guild only take me to mythic wratheon progression just because I have blessing of freedom. It doesnât matter that I am bottom of the damage meter because I get carried by the healers useing echoing void.
Raid weapons with baseline unique corrupted effects ?
At this point you can only equip one or two corrupted effects, and you have what, 30% chances to get one of the broken traits in your weekly chest ?
Ainât that bad tbh. Oh yeah and EV will be nerfed by 50% next reset so youâll pretty much be at the same level than your lucky friends and their broken EV next week.
The vendor was only released in 7.3.5 tho, if they follow the same pattern weâll have to wait a few months for that.
Iâm sorry are you saying that a once a week boss with a 20% chance to drop an item out of a pool of 3-4 once per week is targeting a specific corruption? in addition they are not unique effect., They can occur randomly on any gear Now given the best ones are on items I canât equip how is that targeted? We actually did the math on this is guild today and calculated that on the balance of probabilities it would take around 4 months worth of kills double coining to get a specific weapon. And how do you account for things like the leech corruptions that are bis for holy paladin
Additionally I can happily use up to 5 corrupted item right now and raid happily but the issue is in total they give me about 5k DPS now if I could trade all of that in for twilight devastation or inifnate starts it would have less corruption and more damage
Iâm struggling to understand where you got the 30% from. There is a huge pool of potential corruptions and only a few are bis.
I take the point about the ev need but again I donât think you understand the issue. Itâs not just ev. Itâs infinite starts, twilight devastation and a few others. Ev is a good example because it procs of healing and so is applicable to all specs. However even with the nerf will be a huge chunk of someone damage
so again ill ask why is it ok to have a huge portion of someoneâs DPS tied behind rng drop traits When it was already identified as a problem in legion with the legendaries. And in BFA with azerite gear hence the Titan risidum system. I just donât understand how the Dev team makes the same. Mistake again and again and then fix it two patches later.
Why canât we just start a new system with proper aqisition why do we have to go through this every time
At this point Iâm considering leveling 3 more paladins for shadow lands so I can at least try and combat some of the rng
Because at the end of the day, playtime is what seems to matter the most.
The RNG systems, as much as we dislike them, is also what keeps us addicted. The anticipation for a possible âwinâ is what triggers the dopamine release. Itâs a constant rollercoaster that nurtures compulsion. A deterministic system with a guaranteed outcome isnât nearly as addictive.
Pretty sure the raid weapons have unique effects but will check it later on
Iâm saying that corruption is so impactful that your weekly chest item no longer matter only his corrupted effect. There should still be 3 or 4 corrupted affix which is way above the norm (like the current EV altho it wonât last)
So yeah, each weekly chest is a 20~30% chances to get the one or two corrupted item youâll equip for the next few week, until you stack enough resistance to use another one
Itâs not great but itâs not nearly as terrible as you described it in your OP. Youâll eventually get it even if itâs at a lower ilvl or the wrong stats, and in the next few weeks youâll be rolling with so much corruption that youâll start cleansing or scrapping them.
Thereâs no increasingly lower chances to get it like with the legendaries, getting a void ritual now wonât reduce your chances of getting the one you want.
One positive thing about it is that it may help non meta specs in joining parties, as the corrupted gear impact will lessen the gap between specs.
Now itâs RNG and it doesnât have a bad luck protection. So yeah thatâs an issue, but one you can deal with the m+ chest for the time being.
Gotta be intended at this point.
Guaranteed corruption with weekly chest and you donât care about either the tier or the item, only one of the top 3 affix. Thereâs what, 12~15 different affixes ?
The unique effect from raid weapons isnât that big.
And the effect are so many that you have way less than 30% to get the trait you want corruption tier not included obviousvly otherwise the % will drop even further.
tf was a very bad idea and yet blizz suprised all of us with an even worse idea. âdigging when you hit rock bottomâ should be their new company phrase.
Corruption doesnât help non-meta specs where it matters though. Sure a Sub rogue rocking EV 3 is gonna be awesome. You know whatâs better? An outlaw rogue with EV 3. Where people can afford to be choosy theyâre still going to be because they think âwell I could have X class/spec with that you knowâ.
Also- itâs a poor band aid. Better would be to address the fundamental imbalance, rather than throw a lottery into the game that is so obscenely broken that some people overlook how gimped some specs are because their diceroll carries their dps. I mean that is in no way, shape or form a good way to ensure specs are competitive with eachother at all.
I have yet to get a single dps proc corruption⌠constantly getting crappy stat ones, and the useless ones I might add (Avoidance or Versatility, got these two 7 times in a rowâŚ) !!
In sure the corruption system will be awesome in 4 months when we have loads of items but right now it is deeply frustrating. The fundamentals are good but the execution isnât great. Iâm not sure if I am more frustrated by how close they got to a good system or by my drops
Some of them are. Some are just guaranteed to have one of the baseline corruption effects. And the dstribution of guaranteed corruption weapons is nowhere near even for different classes/specs.
Str two-hander users get a decent corrupted weapon from the second boss and a Twilight Devastation at +10ivl from Nâzoth, so you could argue they get a consolation prize for having their best weapon being super best, but locked behind the hardest boss.
Meanwhile, Int sword users get an Infinite Stars weapon at +10ilvl from Carapace, which means they will get to farm their BiS weapon with BiS corruption for 10mins of work on a laughably easy boss every week once people are done with the raid skip quest.
Agility polearm users like Feral Droids and Survival Hunters get an Echoing Void weapon around the middle of the raid from Hive Mind, which actually sounds like itâs the most fair.
Meanwhile, healers and Balance Druids and Shadow Priests get⌠Well⌠They get a Void Ritual one-hander. To say thatâs disappointing would be an understatement of the year.
Having guaranteed corruption on raid weapons is a good idea. That idea should have been worked upon more so we get more guaranteed, good pieces to work towards. However, with how out of whack the loot tables are for different classes/specs/roles, the weapons might as well be completely random and it wouldnât change much in the grand scheme of things.
I am not so sure. The chance of getting a corruption on an item is completely random sans the weekly M+ box, and what corruption effect you get is also completely random. As far as we know, there is no bad luck protection or catch-up system for corruption items like we (eventually) had in Legion. In Legion, you were guaranteed to eventually get your no1 legendary if you played the game enough, because you were guaranteed to get an item every so often, couldnât get the same item twice and every item you got increased the odds of getting the one you were after by process of elimination.
There is no such guarantee for corruption, you can keep getting the same corrupted effect over and over again. Unless there is some kind of hidden bad luck protection feature implemented, in four monthâs time there will still be people with not a single âgoodâ corruption effect. You could have three Infinite Stars, two Echoing Void and a Twilight Devastation piece by then. But you are equally likely to have three avoidance pieces, two versatility pieces and a Void Ritual piece.
Today on mythic Maut this is the dmg done on a kill from a guildy with ( Twisted Appendage ) Corruption Rank 3 + Rank 2 so just 2 corrupted items, thank you blizzard for making the most broken patch ever to hit wow history having a 26% dmg done from 2 passive items is the pinnacle of balance, keep up the good work guys!
