So pvp noob here but how the hell am i supposed to beat arms warrior + healer in 2s as survival + healer? Feels like he does so much dmg while still having good utility/peeling on top of being somewhat hard to kill himself.
I know everyone says ww is strong and such but they are atleast rare in my rating (1500) while about 1/3 of all arenas in my rating is arms/healer so i’m really starting to be annoyed by them.
Arms doesn’t have that much dmg, they have very good sustained dmg, but a WW can melt you in seconds, same as mage or ret. A lot of other specs can do very high dmg as well, ele, sp, lock…
The difficulty vs warriors now comes from their utility and defensive rotation. They can stop goes and have a good answers defensively to save their healer or themselves too unless you have big burst like mage/rogue/ret to kill them in a stun or kite them hard like affli locks. If not, you go into a dampen game vs them which is not easy to win vs wars as they are good at that.
Surv usually play with priest, right? so that trap + fear, then mind games combo on the healer can net you a kill. Concentrate on that, won’t be easy, but that’s your only option as surv + healer I think vs warrior + healer. If you go with a pally it’s gonna be harder I think as no so much CC. Usually surv + dru is great, but druids kind of lack healing now, and while as surv + dru you will actually be fine vs war + healer (let’s assume pally as they usually play with those), most other comps will crush you as the druid is not as well suited to survive the high burst meta, hots need time.
You need to make a choice before the match, and that is if you wanna sit warrior and trap the healer, or sit healer and diamond trap warrior.
Any time the warrior catches up to you with major cooldowns, kite him out with tar trap, disengage and net.
If you face tank warrior for too long, you will lose. As survival, you can effectively deal damage from range with your abilities and aspect of the hawk. Use this to your advantage as well as master’s call when having to kite out burst damage.
Kite me, Line it, LOS me, watch my stacks©.
You and your healer have to play exceptional to be competitive in 2s. Survival is on par with frost/UH-dk for worst spec in 2s right now (only 60 survival only 2100). The sustained damage is laughable, the burst is on par with warrior sustained.
Survival becomes even worse in a holy paladin meta, seeing thats the worst healer to meet basically. Other healers you can go after and maybe win in a longer game, IF you both cc the warrior perfectly. But going after warrior almost regardless healer is going to be bad, seeing you wont be able to put out the damage needed.
As i said, you need to play perfectly. You both need to max your damage in burst windows and chain every possible cc. But you will have an EXTREME struggle as survival at the moment.
Line the Execute.
Hahah a hunter beating arms in 2. Oh my dear child, you don’t. You open your buttocks and hope he’s gentle.
Nope, never gentle
Strength of Arms isnt entirely its Damage, although it is far too high for a 50% Mortal Strike class to begin with.
Its the stupidity of being able to sit in Defensive Stance permanently, still dealing meaningful pressure while also having obnoxious amount of utility to begin with.
The main issue is you can’t really fight Warrior because it will kill your pet with sweeping strikes over and over again. Probably killing it’s healer makes more sense but I didn’t play Survival since Legion so I might be wrong.
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