Could the Runesmith in Torghast actually be the Primus?

I’ve seen theories about the Runesmith in Torghast actually being the Primus who was used by the Jailer to create Frostmourne and the LK’s helm and armor. Considering he’s considered to be one of the best smiths in the Shadowlands, that theory does make a lot of sense.

What do you guys think?

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It is quite possible, but usualy they would have the same Voice Actor if they were, just something I find as a divider personally. It might be that the Primus is in Torghast aswell, we will have to see as the Maldraxxus covenant campaign continues, I do hope we get to meet the Primus either way.

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It’s obviously him. Like 100%

That’s an interesting theory. I am 100% sure he is in Torghast I just don’t know if he’s the Runecarver.

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Might be true, the optics are certainly right.

Would that add anything to the story, though? It’s not as if we were actively looking for the Primus, so that the reveal that he was hidden right before us wouldn’t have much of an effect. Nor do we have a real personal relationship with either the Primus or the Runecarver, so the reveal that they are actually the same wouldn’t have much of an emotional impact. So… if they are the same, why would we care?

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I can only guess that they’ll make more meaningful interactions with him in the future patches. If he really is the Primus, then I doubt we’ll figure that out until maybe 9.2.

We seem to slowly be restoring his memories with the legendary recipes. The Jailer removed them for a reason.

Asmongold came out with something interesting to what may reveal his indentity in the future

We managed to break one of his chain now, he has 2 more.

1 Chain breaks = 1 Patch?

So yes if it would be like how he thinks it will be then yes in 9.2 he will be free.
Do i think its the Primus?, No.
Could it be the Primus?, Maybe?

It’s not like there’s only one Master when it comes to runecrafting, the Shadowlands is Infinite, the Runecrafter could have come from a different place within the Shadowlands, and not from the 4 lvling zones we’ve experienced.

Peoples are just sus abit the Runecrafter being the Primus because of the following reasons

  • Both are as good at Runecrafting.
  • The Primus are Gone, and this random dude appears to be locked up in Torghast.

I personally don’t believe this to be a mere coincidence. Besides, the Primus being kidnapped and stripped of his memories by the Jailer would make sense, since he’s a tactical mastermind and would’ve presented a serious threat to the Jailer’s plan, so he needed to be put out of the way. And what better place than Torghast, where no one would even think of searching for him?

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Its still to early for us to say whats right and wrong, we know extremely little about the Runecrafter.

Fair enough. The pieces fit for now, except for one thing. I’ve noticed that the statue of the Primus has four fingers on each hand, while the Runecarver has five. That’s pretty suspicious.

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Thats one of the reasons why i dont think its the Primus, unless the Jailer can add body parts to beings.

Well, either that or it’s an oversight on Blizzard’s part. Azshara’s statue in Nazjatar/EP has five fingers on hands when the actual Azshara has four.

Even the statue itself is inconsistent, because the one in front of EP also has four fingers.

We’ll see in the future patch.

This is the first time I like a “Theory” on the forums! This makes so much sense. Well done Horde bovine.

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I got another question for you guys, so I don’t start a new thread.

Hope the OP won’t be bothered by it.

Do you think Ve’nari is the Jailor’s servant?
I find her whole situation fishy. I mean I know that in every zone there is some resistance/rebellion happening and you usually join them and fight the bad guy.

It’s just her story doesn’t add up imo. The Jailor sees and knows everything in the Maw. How did he allow her to be there all this time and meddle with his stuff? Is it just for gameplay purposes?

Either he’s stupid, ignorant or he simply doesn’t consider her a threat worth wasting time on. Or she could indeed be working for him and is just playing us right into his hands, but it’s unlikely. Or she’s just there for the gameplay, but that’s also unlikely.

It’s most likely the “bad guy being stupid as hell for the sake of gameplay” syndrome.

During the Maw scenario, when we were escaping, Anduin tells him “you failed” and he says “no, I got exactly what I wanted”, then proceeds to chain them while we activate the waystone.

Perhaps he does have a special plan for the Azeroth’s champion, I don’t know.

But maybe you’re right, he is just stupid :joy:

Also there is a broker in “De other side” that is a dungeon boss and seems to be on Muezala’s side, I can’t remember exactly what’s up with him. Need to redo the dungeon.

Yeah he’s probably just stupid and is underestimating the champion like every other villain.

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Thanks a lot for answering my question :wink:

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As I understood this was meant for Anduin. Which is later repeated with Sylvanas. They want to use him as instrument in their plans. “The Boy-King serves at the masters table”.

And dat broker on De other Side just doesn’t want to return Bwansamdis Mojo back - so we act as debt collectors, the bruisers!